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Re:GPT-4 by rdedev on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @01:33PM (#35155194)
I guess till some model explicitly says that it's sentient without any input, we would keep pushing the goal posts.
Re:GPT-4 by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @01:39PM (#35155296)
Therein lies the rub. Has anyone wired their models to have real-time data ingestion and the ability to output at will in a variety of mediums? Wake me when we’re there.
Re:GPT-4 by paganel on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @01:44PM (#35155380)
Because those were the real goal-posts all along, some of the best SF novels written all the way back in the ‘50s and ‘60s are testimony to that.
Re:GPT-4 by sebzim4500 on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @01:45PM (#35155390)
I got LLaMA to say that it was sentient without mentioning sentience at all, I think this is a pretty bad metric.
Re:GPT-4 by kvetching on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @01:49PM (#35155469)
Silicon chips will never be able to generate a bound qualia space as we have.

Currently, you could prompt GPT to act as if it is sentient and has qualia, and it will do quite a good job at trying to convince you it's not a P-Zombie.

Re:GPT-4 by CuriouslyC on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @02:26PM (#35156227)
How do you know silicon chips don't have an internal experience already? Are you in that "consciousness is magically emergent" camp?
Re:GPT-4 by kvetching on Thursday March 16, 2023 @04:32AM (#35179560)
I'm sure they do. It's just not coherent, hence prefacing my comment with bound. It's just random mind dust. I am a believer of a form of panpsychism. And that the hard problem of consciousness is better formulated as the boundary problem, whereby you get a conscious / intelligent being from properly creating boundaries around the consciousness that already exists.

Here's a good video detailing this line of thinking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0YID6XV-PQ

Re:GPT-4 by krisoft on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @02:11PM (#35155919)
> Silicon chips will never be able to generate a bound qualia space as we have.

How do you know that?

Re:GPT-4 by kvetching on Thursday March 16, 2023 @04:36AM (#35179576)
Obviously we can't "know" this. My thinking is largely influenced by consciousness researcher and founder of Qualia Research Institute, Andrés Gómez Emilsson.

Here's a couple recent videos with him about why digital computers can't be sentient. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJzBjBo24g8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT9tnzucnPU