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Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by rvz on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @09:34AM (#35151227)
And the stock is up 120% since three months, of the low of $88. Obviously no-one bought it back then when they were expecting the stock to go to zero.

Once again, Meta's death has been greatly exaggerated on this site.

Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by lotsofpulp on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @09:48AM (#35151441)
No one was expecting a business earning $20B profits per year to go to zero.

What changed were the expectations of what their profit will be in 5, 10, 20 years.

Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by oblio on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @10:20AM (#35151958)
> What changed were the expectations of what their profit will be in 5, 10, 20 years.

The funny thing is, that's a bad bet. Large tech company profits can last for years and decades. The archetypal example is IBM. They've had some years or record losses, but overall, look at their yearly profits:

https://companiesmarketcap.com/ibm/earnings/

We're talking about probably more than $250bn of profits over 20 years.

Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by lotsofpulp on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @10:39AM (#35152254)
Just having a profit is not enough to say something was or was not a bad bet. I doubt anyone is happy with their bet on IBM in the past couple decades.
Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by oblio on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @11:08AM (#35152722)
It also depends on dividends. If IBM consistently gave dividends to its shareholders, that could add up to a lot of money.
Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by ghaff on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @11:41AM (#35153314)
IBM is a good dividend stock. That said, there are certainly stocks you could have bought and held over the past couple of decades (as well as many index funds) that would have had better returns overall.
Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by lotsofpulp on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @11:26AM (#35153020)
But it did not.

https://dqydj.com/stock-return-calculator/

IBM has objectively been a terrible investment for many, many years.

Re:Meta to Layoff 10k Employees by marcosdumay on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @12:33PM (#35154182)
So... As valuation for those companies usually go, if the profit stays constant on real terms, the reasonable price to pay for the stock is often some 90% down from the peak.