> you're possibly under-estimating the proportion of voters who routinely vote against their self-interest without realizing it.

Well if you know what people want better than themselves maybe we should just make you King.

If you are convinced it's the best thing for you please vote him to be king.

Oof, reading comprehension! I never made that claim.

Also, the question was "Assume that X, then is Y true?", the question was not "Is X true?".

It's worth considering that you're not really talking about their own self-interest. You're talking about what you think they should want.

For example, anyone who likes the non-employee status of Uber driving will vote against it. Anyone who wants to be an employee is voting for lower wages, although higher benefits. They may prefer that, but not everyone does.

By that same token, we're all only talking about what people think they should want, and not necessarily what will really benefit them. By extension, the argument becomes that it doesn't matter how well people are informed, only that they act on the limited information they have. I prefer to emphasize efforts to inform the public better, rather than leaving them out to dry when their hopes are not reflected in the outcomes of such things.

I agree. But that's different to claiming to know better than the people voting what is their own interest.

I don't disagree with you, and I think everything you just said was obvious... but you failed to entertain the question.

The question was "Assume that X, then is Y true?", the question was not "Is X true?".