https://github.com/plotly/dash https://docs.bokeh.org/en/latest/
Using scientific and numeric packages from the python ecosystem is more than syntactic sugar, IMO. It seems like the JS world mostly ignores that stuff.
I have yet to try a real project with any of those python web tools. I know just enough HTML, vanilla JS and DOM API to cobble together ugly sites when I need to, so that's what I do. But I am optimistic that a better alternative will emerge eventually.
It's a bit big but just run nextjs, it solves almost everything for you. Even deployment is one click away. Would take 5 mins to get started. And a few hours to understand for a seasoned dev.
I honestly want to understand this viewpoint, so I can make informed decisions when looking at these tools. So let me ask...
I agree that some of these older python things are probably not worth using. But I'm a bit confused that you're entirely dismissing web assembly. I think it's well understood that using JavaScript as the foundation of front end software was a complete historical accident. It's a huge amount of inertia to compete with, but that doesn't mean it's insurmountable.
My understanding is that wasm is a major industry initiative, and it isn't going away. Emscripten seems to be nearly as stable. Now, maybe two or three non-js languages will emerge as the core of wasm-based development, and maybe python won't be in that small group. I'd rather learn, say, rust than continue writing JavaScript.
Where do you disagree? You think wasm will be shut down completely in a year? You think none of these languages will take off in terms of web-specific tooling? Something else?
I've seen many attempts to take over js, thusfar they all failed. At the same time JS got more and more powerful.
Js is so integrated in every corporate it will not go away any time soon.
JS solves so many issues know and the css layout is much more mature than then any under native system (native apps, flash etc are much worse at responsive layouts)
Wasp sounds fun, it's very early stage and doesnt sound like it has anything to do with webpages but runs a binary in a browser sandbox. Kind of like flash without a plugin. Can have a lot of cool features, mainly games etc. But sounds like an addition not a replacement. But who knows!
Here are two Python ones I've tried:
https://www.django-unicorn.com/ https://github.com/edelvalle/reactor