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Re:Ipmitool Repository Archived, Developer Suspended by GitHub by ghostoftiber on Monday March 13, 2023 @01:19PM (#35138972)
> a potential

> residing in Moscow

Guilty until proven innocent isn't a good look, especially when it comes down to where people live or their ethnic background.

Re:Ipmitool Repository Archived, Developer Suspended by GitHub by sam_lowry_ on Monday March 13, 2023 @01:56PM (#35139676)
Ethnic? Rather succeptiple to thermo-rectile cryptoanslysis, as they call it jokingly in Russia.
Re:Ipmitool Repository Archived, Developer Suspended by GitHub by jacob019 on Monday March 13, 2023 @02:20PM (#35140074)
US law does not apply to foreign nationals residing in a foreign country. Russia is ruthlessly murdering their neighbors and has indicated that they are at war with the collective west. Russia has a long history of cyber espionage against the US and is actively engaged in Internet warfare. This is an entirely reasonable precaution by Microsoft. It's a sad moment.
Re:Ipmitool Repository Archived, Developer Suspended by GitHub by ms7m on Monday March 13, 2023 @03:00PM (#35140722)
> US law does not apply to foreign nationals residing in a foreign country.

I don't think parent meant it in the context of US Law, but more as a general statement, is it a reasonable precaution by MS to ban X solely on the actions of their government?

Re:Ipmitool Repository Archived, Developer Suspended by GitHub by jacob019 on Monday March 13, 2023 @03:40PM (#35141316)
The presumption of guilt until proven innocent is a fundamental principle of US law and an integral part of our ideology. In my opinion, it is justifiable and suitable to prohibit X from having access to sensitive infrastructure based solely on the actions of their government, especially when X is subject to the decisions of that government.
Re:Ipmitool Repository Archived, Developer Suspended by GitHub by jstarfish on Monday March 13, 2023 @03:43PM (#35141346)
> is it a reasonable precaution by MS to ban X solely on the actions of their government?

One could argue it's discriminatory; they banned him because he's Russian.

...which is the problem with this rhetoric.

Russia and China are known to entice or coerce otherwise-innocuous civilians into acts of espionage. Their foreign policies explicitly exploit our presumptions of innocence, inclusivity and trust. Pre-emptive banning to avoid another SolarWinds is more than reasonable precaution; it's something that should have been done years ago.

But in the meantime, by our own policies we're obligated to allow foxes into the henhouse. We're shamed for discriminating against foxes if we turn them away, and shamed again for asking questions about how the Great Chicken Massacre of 2023 was allowed to happen. Chaos engineering at its finest.

Re:Ipmitool Repository Archived, Developer Suspended by GitHub by jacob019 on Monday March 13, 2023 @03:51PM (#35141475)
Entertaining analogy! I agree with your point, but we are not obligated by policy to allow foxes into the henhouse, rather we are obligated by our social norms.
Re:Ipmitool Repository Archived, Developer Suspended by GitHub by 1MachineElf on Monday March 13, 2023 @03:11PM (#35140892)
Maybe not. Microsoft stands to gain by crippling the most popular FOSS BMC tool. They would rather everyone have to use Windows-centric proprietary alternatives.
Re:Ipmitool Repository Archived, Developer Suspended by GitHub by naikrovek on Monday March 13, 2023 @03:48PM (#35141410)
yes, clearly they've crippled it... they're still hosting it and allowing people to fork and clone the repo.

US export and import restrictions must be followed by companies who operate in the US. GitHub is one of those companies, and the developer in question is associated with a newly restricted company, so GitHub must cease allowing that company to operate on its infrastructure.

Re:Ipmitool Repository Archived, Developer Suspended by GitHub by CameronNemo on Monday March 13, 2023 @02:33PM (#35140297)
He is not being convicted of a crime, the software supply chain is just being locked down.
Re:Ipmitool Repository Archived, Developer Suspended by GitHub by Claude_Shannon on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @03:47AM (#35148468)
Yes, every Russian should be presumed to be guilty until proven otherwise for as long Russia commits a genocidal war.

THEY DON'T GIVE THE UKRAINIANS THEY BUTCHER BENEFIT OF DOUBT.

Re:Ipmitool Repository Archived, Developer Suspended by GitHub by workaccount1 on Tuesday March 14, 2023 @05:49AM (#35149208)
There has been no mistaken belief that has casued as much suffering worldwide as the false belief that "we are the government".