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Re:Singapore software vendor says own hardware in colo costs... by openplatypus on Monday March 13, 2023 @07:25AM (#35134172)
Cloud was always more expensive (in the short term) than self-managed/collocated servers.

How is this news?

In cloud, you pay for availability, for ad-hoc instances without waiting for a month to install new servers and more.

You only need to hire “software” DevOps, rather than people who neatly lay your cables, journey to DC to replace disks, etc, etc, etc.

Pick a good, cheap cloud. It is a commodity product. Just because AWS is expensive, you don't have to pick AWS.

If going solo is an option, you likely do not use any of them “fancy” AWS managed services. In that case, you can just as well go with any of tens of other Cloud providers.

DHH sang the song and some people take it as a gospel. (eyeroll)

Re:Singapore software vendor says own hardware in colo costs... by openplatypus on Monday March 13, 2023 @07:27AM (#35134182)
For completeness: There are many reasons to NOT go with cloud. Cost is rarely on that list.
Re:Singapore software vendor says own hardware in colo costs... by endisneigh on Monday March 13, 2023 @07:27AM (#35134188)
What is a "good, cheap cloud?"
Re:Singapore software vendor says own hardware in colo costs... by orangepurple on Monday March 13, 2023 @07:30AM (#35134208)
Vultr comes to mind immediately. I used Ramnode a few years ago.
Re:Singapore software vendor says own hardware in colo costs... by samelrici on Monday March 13, 2023 @07:47AM (#35134349)
Bandwidth on Hetzner is really cheap
Re:Singapore software vendor says own hardware in colo costs... by andrewstuart on Monday March 13, 2023 @08:14AM (#35134628)
Ionos
Re:Singapore software vendor says own hardware in colo costs... by openplatypus on Monday March 13, 2023 @02:54PM (#35140633)
IONOS cloud is not so cheap :(

It is good performance, but not cheap.

Re:Singapore software vendor says own hardware in colo costs... by yagni_dev on Monday March 13, 2023 @07:45AM (#35134327)
"You only need to hire “software” DevOps, rather than people who neatly lay your cables, journey to DC to replace disks, etc, etc, etc."

Lol, what year you think we are? 1998? There are colo facilities around the world, you have 'remote hands' to take care everything related to hardware. You just need ansible/xyz to deploy you software, thats all it takes

Re:Singapore software vendor says own hardware in colo costs... by openplatypus on Monday March 13, 2023 @02:54PM (#35140615)
The last time I have seen such an operation was back in 2009.

Also, even today you can buy a barebone place in the rack, with climate control and power supply. I know companies who do their disk replaces, cable management even in 2023.

I am fully aware you can have mostly managed data centre, like for example, Leaseweb, OVH, Servers.com. But if you have specialized hardware requirements, sometimes you have to wait a few days/weeks for installation.

I am old, but I don't think we are back in the 1998.