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Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by ericd on Monday March 13, 2023 @12:07AM (#35130918)
Normal/poor people don't put enough money into banks for it to represent much of their earnings. IIRC, from that image that was circulating around, much less than half of the deposits of even BofA are from accounts <$250k. So I don't think accounts like your grandma's are going to bear any percentage of the brunt of this.
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by pooper on Monday March 13, 2023 @01:45AM (#35131601)
> Normal/poor people don't put enough money into banks for it to represent much of their earnings.

This is hurtful in more ways than one. Banks routinely charge all kinds of fees from account maintenance to whatever Wells Fargo did for years.

Retail banks won't let the Federal Reserve open a bank account for everyone by default with the Fed.

Either what you say is true and the retail customers are insignificant, and banks must offer no fee accounts. If not, they can't block federal reserve from creating default USD accounts for everyone.

Or they are an important part of the bank's marketing strategy or whatever. In this case, banks must lose the ability to gamble customer funds.

Which one is it?

Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by rocqua on Monday March 13, 2023 @02:58AM (#35132080)
> Retail banks won't let the Federal Reserve open a bank account for everyone by default with the Fed.

Actually the FED is opposed to this themselves. A company called the narrow bank was going to try this. The FED refused them a banking license, all the way to court.

The FED wants deposits reinvested into the economy.

Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by afiori on Monday March 13, 2023 @10:18AM (#35136024)
Quoting from: https://www.econlib.org/why-does-the-fed-oppose-narrow-banki...

> A narrow bank takes deposits and invests the money in interest-bearing reserves deposited at the Fed. Because that’s all these banks would do, they would be very low cost and hence could pass along to depositors the interest earned on reserves, minus a small fee.

> Narrow banks could attract many large depositors, who currently receive much lower interest rates on their deposits at ordinary commercial banks.

It feels like they were offloading their cost to a service that the government maybe offers at a loss.

Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by rocqua on Monday March 13, 2023 @12:01PM (#35137565)
It's not so much about the loss, its about the fact that banks lose their depositors. It is great for an economy that the 'savings' of people are used to safely invest in good ideas. This is the function of banks, and incidentally a function that really benefits from a profit motive.

Hence I believe the Fed was against this to keep the economy running by 'keeping money rolling'.

Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by afiori on Monday March 13, 2023 @06:16PM (#35143793)
I am not convinced by this argument* because banks can already do that. I don't think that bank are "required" to invest client's deposits, so they can already just stash paper cash in a big vault. It is clearly a dumb strategy for a retail bank.

This proposal for narrow banking seems to employ the government as this vault, sort of like treasury bonds that can be freely withdrawn, which seems a more significant difference.

* I am not denying that this is what the feds claimed and/or believed

Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by dwighttk on Monday March 13, 2023 @06:33AM (#35133739)
Weird… why are so many account holders at BoA depositing more than the FDIC insured amount for an account?
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by ericd on Monday March 13, 2023 @08:57AM (#35135073)
It’s deposit volume rather than number of accounts that are over $250k. I’m sure that most of the accounts are <$250k, but a single $1m account accounts weighs the same as 100 $10k accounts.
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by dwighttk on Monday March 13, 2023 @09:20AM (#35135326)
But why is anyone holding $1M in an account insured up to $250K?
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by ericd on Monday March 13, 2023 @10:06AM (#35135881)
Many companies pay out their workers more than $250k per pay period.
Re:Joint Statement by the Department of the Treasury, Federa... by ZiiS on Monday March 13, 2023 @10:11AM (#35135936)
If you have 100+ employees for payroll.