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Re:“Healthy obesity” doesn’t exist. It is unequivocally bad ... by newaccount2023 on Sunday March 12, 2023 @01:36PM (#35123270)
Too bad we are going in the other direction...three meme-ish things I have seen trending:

"no bad food" - the claim that the only "bad" food is either rotten or actually poisoned. so now you can't even tell people that pizza + pepsi is not a good breakfast...as long as the consumer finds it "satisfying"...it is "good"

"healthy at any size" - the claim that morbidly obese people are simply differently-sized but fundamentally as healthy as anyone else

and lastly, the claim that going to the gym is for the "alt right"...like, only literal Nazis work out

did COVID teach us nothing?

this is why I will never get behind socialized healthcare...I'm not footing the bill for the increasing number of people who push these beliefs

Re:“Healthy obesity” doesn’t exist. It is unequivocally bad ... by copperx on Sunday March 12, 2023 @01:54PM (#35123564)
You're already footing the bill if you have insurance; it's the same thing.

And these beliefs are a consequence of for-profit healthcare.

If socialized healthcare was a reality, there would be a big incentive for having a lean population. We don't have that today, because there is profit to be made.

Re:“Healthy obesity” doesn’t exist. It is unequivocally bad ... by max47 on Sunday March 12, 2023 @01:57PM (#35123636)
> this is why I will never get behind socialized healthcare...I'm not footing the bill for the increasing number of people who push these beliefs

Sadly, the US is paying as much per capita for healthcare as countries with free healthcare. A private system costs a lot more to run even when they are managed by people with good intentions.

Re:“Healthy obesity” doesn’t exist. It is unequivocally bad ... by wkat4242 on Sunday March 12, 2023 @02:14PM (#35123910)
When I hear that in the US health insurance can cost upwards of $1000 a month, I really think something is severely broken in the system there.

In the Netherlands it costs around 150 with good services. In Spain it's free but no way the tax expenditure is that high because most people don't even make much more than 1000 euro.

Re:“Healthy obesity” doesn’t exist. It is unequivocally bad ... by dudul on Sunday March 12, 2023 @09:52PM (#35129691)
A grand sounds a bit high. I have a family of 4 and can't remember ever paying more than 400 a month. Granted, my employer picks up part of the tab but that's just how it works in the US (and it's dumb).
Re:“Healthy obesity” doesn’t exist. It is unequivocally bad ... by dudul on Sunday March 12, 2023 @02:03PM (#35123733)
You pay for it through your insurance premium though.
Re:“Healthy obesity” doesn’t exist. It is unequivocally bad ... by robotburrito on Sunday March 12, 2023 @02:17PM (#35123944)
Socialized healthcare could possibly help destroy the beliefs you mention. Public policy will certainly change in terms of what "food" is even legal to sell in this country if bad decisions don't mean profit for private health care companies, but instead mean losses for the public.