How Climate Scenarios Lost Touch with Reality

Re:How Climate Scenarios Lost Touch with Reality by wizofaus on Saturday March 11, 2023 @03:37PM (#35112438)

Pielke Jr is a climate-action "denialist" from a long way back, no? (claims to accept the science but then concludes there's nothing we can do about it for the foreseeable future other than adapt. This article seems to be saying "well ok some of changes we've made are making a difference to emissions, but now there's no real need to make any more...").

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Re:How Climate Scenarios Lost Touch with Reality by omginternets on Saturday March 11, 2023 @03:54PM (#35112608)

You’ve substituted “climate change denialist” for “climate action denialist”.

Why?

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Re:How Climate Scenarios Lost Touch with Reality by wizofaus on Saturday March 11, 2023 @03:59PM (#35112643)

Only because I don't believe he's ever denied climate change was happening or that if it is it's not our fault, which are the usual first two phases of denialism.

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Re:How Climate Scenarios Lost Touch with Reality by omginternets on Saturday March 11, 2023 @04:05PM (#35112694)

I don’t follow. You’re responding to a point about the author not being a climate change denialist by saying that he doesn’t think action against climate change is justified.

What point are you actually trying to make? It seems like you’re trying to equate one with the other, especially given your novel use of the word “denialism”. I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but I’m still unclear on what exactly you are implying.

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Re:How Climate Scenarios Lost Touch with Reality by wizofaus on Sunday March 12, 2023 @03:34PM (#35125078)

I just got the impression the OP wasn't aware of Pielke Jr's background. Actually he's probably better described as a contrarian than a denialist, though he's been called out by no less than Michael Mann as belonging to the latter camp.

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Re:How Climate Scenarios Lost Touch with Reality by omginternets on Sunday March 12, 2023 @05:00PM (#35126215)

Fair. Thanks for clarifying.

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Re:How Climate Scenarios Lost Touch with Reality by defrost on Saturday March 11, 2023 @09:41PM (#35115868)

C'mon now, credit where credit is due:

    Roger A. Pielke Jr. is an American political scientist and professor, and was the director of the Sports Governance Center within the Department of Athletics at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado Boulder.

But yes, a long time denialist amd one frequently steadfastly wrong in the face of evidence independantly confirmed by multiple third parties of standing.

He got that from his father who was also an AGW denialist (a climate change believer, but a denier that humans play any meaningful role), albeit one with more relevant credentuals:

    Roger A. Pielke Sr. is an American meteorologist with interests in climate variability and climate change, environmental vulnerability, numerical modeling, atmospheric dynamics, land/ocean – atmosphere interactions, and large eddy/turbulent boundary layer modeling.

FWiW it is universally acknowledged that Jnr. does have considerable expertise and knowledge in the field of water polo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_A._Pielke_Jr.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_A._Pielke

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