Re:Some Cities Are More Doomed Than Others – Peter Thiel and...
by 0xcde4c3db on Friday March 10, 2023 @12:44PM
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In case anyone is wondering, they don't get to the "why" in any concrete way (at least not in this excerpt). There's a dig at "progressive policies", but no discussion of what those policies actually are or why they matter. Thiel implies a couple of times that it has something to do with how relatively entrenched local political machines and interest groups are, but the discussion mostly centers on where they're feeling the most prosperity vibes. Which is fine, but "a couple of wealthy right-wing dudes feel better about Texas and Florida than they do about California" isn't much of a revelation.
Re:Some Cities Are More Doomed Than Others – Peter Thiel and...
by Zero_Koool on Friday March 10, 2023 @01:13PM
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This is always the argument from supply-side conservatives, but much like how supply side economics never holds up to real strutiny, this ‘liberal cities are dying’ narrative doesn’t hold up either. Outside of liberal enclaves in conservative states (Austin), the fastest growing economies are all liberal coastal cities. It’s where educated people go to study and want to live. See the Kansas Experiment
Re:Some Cities Are More Doomed Than Others – Peter Thiel and...
by gamblor956 on Friday March 10, 2023 @01:35PM
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Exactly.
Even Republicans prefer liberal cities. When GOP Presidential candidates want to raise real money, they make pilgrimages to NYC and LA because that's where the actual money is.
See the Kansas Experiment
DeSantis was here in LA within the past week trying to drum up donations for his presidential campaign, and the best he could offer to justify Florida's dismal economic performance is...that it "ain't woke." But it's better to be woke than broke.
Re:Some Cities Are More Doomed Than Others – Peter Thiel and...
by ilrwbwrkhv on Friday March 10, 2023 @06:13PM
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I mean when has Peter Thiel ever said anything meaningful and can actually make the world better in a predictable fashion? Never. He complains about not having flying cars and having Twitter while never working on anything meaningful. People like him are a real curse on the American spirit of freedom and entrepreneurship. One lucky investment in a random social network and people keep linking to them.
Re:Some Cities Are More Doomed Than Others – Peter Thiel and...
by graderjs on Friday March 10, 2023 @10:28PM
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It's funny: I find Peter really insightful and he has a unique perspective that he seems brave to state. Yet I've encountered this reaction before: people who are really like, "So?! What is this guy saying that is new or insightful? Nothing!" Like they have a quite emphatically repulsed and incredulous reaction to this guy, specifically taking him apart for what he is renowned for. Almost similar maybe to the way people look at a picture by Picasso or Mondrian or Basquiat and say: "So!?! My 3 year old could do that! Rubbish!"
I'll have to think more about what might be there for those people to contribute to them choosing to be like that about him.
Re:Some Cities Are More Doomed Than Others – Peter Thiel and...
by ilrwbwrkhv on Friday March 10, 2023 @11:24PM
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One is art, the other, sermons about a better future. One is meant to be actualized. The other is meant to be enjoyed. The problem is his thoughts are vapid nonsense which can never be shaped in any form. I think the real reason a lot of people like his flavor of nonsense is because it makes them feel intellectuals by association. Jordan Peterson is another hack who falls into this category. People get attracted to him because it makes them feel deep.
The fundamental spirit of Americana is individualism and people need to think for themselves.
Finally if you are consuming his content as mere entertainment then by all means go ahead, but may I also offer Mad Max Fury Road as a tremendous alternative.
I wonder if Thiel loses sleep knowing how unrespected he is if he has to throw in with Dave Rubin.
[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdczWxyftT4 [video][1hr 6mins]
Even Republicans prefer liberal cities. When GOP Presidential candidates want to raise real money, they make pilgrimages to NYC and LA because that's where the actual money is.
See the Kansas Experiment
DeSantis was here in LA within the past week trying to drum up donations for his presidential campaign, and the best he could offer to justify Florida's dismal economic performance is...that it "ain't woke." But it's better to be woke than broke.
I'll have to think more about what might be there for those people to contribute to them choosing to be like that about him.
The fundamental spirit of Americana is individualism and people need to think for themselves.
Finally if you are consuming his content as mere entertainment then by all means go ahead, but may I also offer Mad Max Fury Road as a tremendous alternative.