Re:Google dusts off the failed Google+ playbook to fight Cha...
by raverbashing on Friday March 10, 2023 @01:05AM
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Not to mention that G+ had ideas that worked on paper about how users like to manage their connections, but didn't work in real life
Adding a new notification about everytime someone follows you is just asking for people to avoid the product
Re:Google dusts off the failed Google+ playbook to fight Cha...
by refulgentis on Friday March 10, 2023 @01:57AM
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Is that different from Twitter, or appreciably different from Facebook?
Re:Google dusts off the failed Google+ playbook to fight Cha...
by raverbashing on Friday March 10, 2023 @03:40AM
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Yes, their notifications were more "in your face" and for some reason you'd get a bunch of random people adding you to their "circle"
Poor UX management
Re:Google dusts off the failed Google+ playbook to fight Cha...
by zmmmmm on Friday March 10, 2023 @01:24AM
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It's surprising they didn't learn from Gmail. For a while I was the most popular person in my circle of business colleagues because I had gmail invites. Artificial scarcity goes a lot further than forcing something on everyone in the end.
Re:Google dusts off the failed Google+ playbook to fight Cha...
by hencq on Friday March 10, 2023 @01:44AM
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On the contrary, they did try the artificial scarcity thing with G+, but unlike Gmail, a social network isn't really useful if your friends aren't on it.
Re:Google dusts off the failed Google+ playbook to fight Cha...
by esprehn on Friday March 10, 2023 @02:12AM
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They already knew that from Wave, which also had the "my friends aren't on it and I have no invites" headwind.
Re:Google dusts off the failed Google+ playbook to fight Cha...
by grumple on Friday March 10, 2023 @10:31AM
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Yet Facebook was hyped because of artificial scarcity. They started by rolling out to one elite university at a time.
Re:Google dusts off the failed Google+ playbook to fight Cha...
by blackoil on Friday March 10, 2023 @01:48AM
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Gmail was able to leverage open email standards, so aren't constrained by network effect. Second, it was way ahead of competitors in terms of storage and overall product.
Google+ was competing head on with Facebook which had a huge leverage in terms of the network effect.
Re:Google dusts off the failed Google+ playbook to fight Cha...
by kryptiskt on Friday March 10, 2023 @02:11AM
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It doesn't work if the service needs the network effect. Google Wave crashed and burned right out of the gate because it was exclusive and it was exceedingly unlikely that all the people you wanted to collaborate with were able to get in.
Re:Google dusts off the failed Google+ playbook to fight Cha...
by passion__desire on Friday March 10, 2023 @11:20AM
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Isn't Reddit what Google wave tried to be?
Re:Google dusts off the failed Google+ playbook to fight Cha...
by orbital-decay on Friday March 10, 2023 @01:42AM
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It worked well with Chrome though.
"We already have a huge user base, we'll just automatically sign them up for <new thing> and get it off to a running start". No, these users will hate you for it and in fact ruin the experience for the select few who are actually interested. Meanwhile executives will tout the rosy user growth metrics, declare the launch a success and collect their bonuses.
There is no substitute for old-fashioned organic growth. Start small. Focus on early power users and listen to their feedback. Have something unique that sets you apart from the competition and attracts more users. This is how Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok and the like were able to establish themselves in Facebook's presence while Google+ failed.