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Re:Evolution of tree roots may have driven mass extinctions by Fatnino on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @09:04AM (#35069069)
According to the documentary "The Matrix", it's the first one.
Re:Evolution of tree roots may have driven mass extinctions by nextaccountic on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @09:10AM (#35069121)
Unfortunately it doesn't make sense to use us as batteries or energy sources, thermodynamically. But they could maybe use our brains as computers (and this was the first idea the writers had, they just decided against it because it would be too complicated for mainstream audiences)

But in this case it would be rather wasteful to also nourish the rest of the body. As a bonus, if all the remaining people are just brains floating in a tank, they can't really escape.

Re:Evolution of tree roots may have driven mass extinctions by flir on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @09:21AM (#35069241)
In that film (brains in a jar), you don't escape to reality, you escape to a different level of the matrix (one where you've got superpowers). Last shot in the film will have a lot in common with the last shot in Terry Gilliam's Brazil.

It won't get great results from test audiences.

Re:Evolution of tree roots may have driven mass extinctions by nextaccountic on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @02:00PM (#35073263)
> Last shot in the film

What do you mean by that? (Not a native speaker and out of ideas on how to search for it)

Re:Evolution of tree roots may have driven mass extinctions by flir on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @04:41PM (#35075130)
Literally? I'm talking about the last scene in the film, right at the end. The last thing that happens before the credits.

The film's nearly 40, and I still don't want to spolier it. Suffice to say, it made me feel physically sick.

Re:Evolution of tree roots may have driven mass extinctions by nextaccountic on Thursday March 09, 2023 @01:42AM (#35078834)
Oh, thanks!
Re:Evolution of tree roots may have driven mass extinctions by throwbadubadu on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @09:24AM (#35069277)
> and this was the first idea the writers had, they just decided against it because it would be too complicated for mainstream audiences

Doesn't make immediate sense to me, if using brains as computers you wouldn't want to occupy them with the Matrix simulation and the whole story falls apart, so how was the complicated plot ought to be? Use the brains with the Matrix how we are used already for solving captchas?

Re:Evolution of tree roots may have driven mass extinctions by BitwiseFool on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @10:21AM (#35070068)
From what I recall, it was studio meddling that forced the "humans as batteries" idea.
Re:Evolution of tree roots may have driven mass extinctions by speed_spread on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @09:25AM (#35069295)
We think with much more than just our brain. For example, there are neurons at the stomach level and your gut bacteria determines part of your mood. You could make a case that the whole body is required to capture the human experience.
Re:Evolution of tree roots may have driven mass extinctions by dr_dshiv on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @09:23AM (#35069259)
> use our brains as computers (and this was the first idea the writers had, they just decided against it because it would be too complicated for mainstream audiences)

Source please!

Re:Evolution of tree roots may have driven mass extinctions by nextaccountic on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @01:39PM (#35072985)
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/26o6al/til_i... which links to https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/19817/was-executiv... which cites an interview, but doesn't link to it or otherwise show which interview that was said

On the other hand, https://www.reddit.com/r/matrix/comments/q2xefs/batteries_no... says that this was never true