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Re:“Forbidden-Word” Lists Are a Symptom of Administrative Bloat by calvinmorrison on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @08:52AM (#35068956)
Generally speaking, this is only enforced upon political dissidents however. Black face is forgivable if you are Justin Trudeau, but not Billy Bob Conservative.
Re:“Forbidden-Word” Lists Are a Symptom of Administrative Bloat by mhuffman on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @09:02AM (#35069057)
I agree there seems to be some people that are immune to this, but it is capricious in application. if someone wants more reddit/tiktok/twitter points that day then even the most ardent ally to your specific leaning will be sacrificed to the internet point gods.
Re:“Forbidden-Word” Lists Are a Symptom of Administrative Bloat by version_five on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @09:12AM (#35069142)
The thing about having rules that everybody is constantly breaking is that they let you selectively enforce them on your enemies. Drug laws have been historically like this and used more against minorities e.g.

So when pictures surface of someone that the in crowd doesn't like is an old Halloween costume, they all play it up as if the person's a monster. Realistically, few if anyone actually care deep down, and so when the same thing happens to someone currently in favor, it's easy to let it slide.

The problem isn't that justin Trudeau (who I despise incidentally) got a pass for dressing up in a costume (which obviously wasn't remotely offensive in the context it was in), it's that other people's careers have been destroyed for the same thing.

Just like e.g. Bill Clinton "not inhaling" - nobody gives a shit if he smoked pot. But simultaneously thousands of people, mostly who are "undesirables" in the eyes of law enforcement for one reason or another get incarcerated for it.

Re:“Forbidden-Word” Lists Are a Symptom of Administrative Bloat by calvinmorrison on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @09:41AM (#35069484)
"Trudeau said he wore blackface “makeup” in high school to sing “Day-O,” a Jamaican folk song famously performed by African-American singer and civil rights activist Harry Belafonte. TIME has confirmed that a photo shows Trudeau at a school talent show wearing blackface and an afro wig." - TIME

Nah man that's just straight up blackface minstrel, extremely racist and bad. Sorry, you're confusing it with the other time he wore blackface.

Re:“Forbidden-Word” Lists Are a Symptom of Administrative Bloat by wonderwonder on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @12:09PM (#35071664)
Honestly though, why is this important? He meant no offense and no one was hurt. Should we advocate for ending his career because of something he did in highschool?
Re:“Forbidden-Word” Lists Are a Symptom of Administrative Bloat by calvinmorrison on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @01:11PM (#35072559)
almost Certainly not. We should only hold past indiscretions against people we have opposing political opinions with
Re:“Forbidden-Word” Lists Are a Symptom of Administrative Bloat by wonderwonder on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @01:21PM (#35072710)
Politically me and Trudeau are very far apart
Re:“Forbidden-Word” Lists Are a Symptom of Administrative Bloat by mhuffman on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @09:15AM (#35069172)
Very well put! Selective enforcement is the key here. When everyone doesn't get to play by the same rule or even know the rules in some cases, how do you have a functioning society?
Re:“Forbidden-Word” Lists Are a Symptom of Administrative Bloat by shadowgovt on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @10:38AM (#35070311)
Mostly the way we do right now: learn as one goes and pay attention.
Re:“Forbidden-Word” Lists Are a Symptom of Administrative Bloat by shadowgovt on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @10:37AM (#35070298)
The realpolitik of the thing is that when bad stuff comes out, the value people perceive the perpetrator brings is weighed against the bad stuff. In essence, cost of keeping them vs. cost of marginalizing them.

Some folks were just too valuable to marginalize. Some aren't. But that's pretty true of any space humans operate in, whether the bad stuff is Halloween costume choices or bad hygiene.

If there are a hundred Justin Trudeaus to choose from, the one that was racist gets left by the wayside (I think this is what scares people about this sort of thing... They realize they aren't special enough to step out of line).

Re:“Forbidden-Word” Lists Are a Symptom of Administrative Bloat by ParetoOptimal on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @10:39AM (#35070316)
Blackface is unforgivable for both. Words matter. You'll be fine replacing master/slave with main/secondary.
Re:“Forbidden-Word” Lists Are a Symptom of Administrative Bloat by kodah on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @07:26PM (#35076710)
It's worth reading this persons Twitter: https://twitter.com/ParetoOptimal_