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Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by Ancalagon on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @02:09PM (#35059726)
"Better corp for the world" is subjective.

"Pay well" but maybe not quite as well as Meta, and for our purposes I am excluding other FAANGs (except Waymo, sort of I guess):

- Roblox

- LinkedIn

- Robinhood

- Databricks

- Bytedance

- Box

- Stripe

- Two Sigma

- Lyft

- Uber

- Instacart

- Cruise

- Doordash

- Waymo

- Airbnb

- Pinterest

Companies which imo have a more positive impact on the world than Meta:

- Waymo/Cruise (autonomous driving)

- LinkedIn - close call, but a more professional social network with the intent of matching employers with employees and taking most of their profits from the advertising of those jobs without influencing global politics

- Stripe - value comes from payments processing for companies big and small which is a valuable product in its own right

- Lyft/Uber - close call again, but I think the disruption of the taxi industry and the additional options for transportation have really revolutionized how many people get around day-to-day.

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Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by RestlessMind on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @03:29PM (#35060748)
Thanks for answering the question honestly. Looking at that list, I can see only LinkedIn / Databricks / Box / Cruise / Waymo as qualifying for "not making the world shittier" criteria. But quitting Meta to go work for another variant of social media like Roblox / Bytedance / Pinterest? Or Airbnb / Uber / Lyft / Instacart with lots of negative externalities by exploiting labor arbitrage? That doesn't really make any sense.
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Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by Ancalagon on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @03:37PM (#35060855)
Sure, but that does answer your original ask. There are options, especially if you're willing to work for just slightly less (or in some cases you can still get a raise by switching) to work at a company that pays well and makes a more positive impact on the world.
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Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by RestlessMind on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @01:31AM (#35065927)
> especially if you're willing to work for just slightly less

Well, in that entire list, following are the companies who don't make the world shittier: LinkedIn / Stripe / Databricks / Box / Cruise. (I will omit Waymo because its parent is Alphabet, which fails shittiness criteria).

Box stock is flat since 2015. Databricks / Stripe are private so no liquidity. So only LinkedIn qualifies for "slightly less pay but not shittier world". Though I agree that there is an option if someone wants.

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Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by Ancalagon on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @06:38PM (#35076287)
I mean FB stock is negative if you count people who joined in the last year...Even flat is better than that
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Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by RestlessMind on Saturday March 11, 2023 @07:04PM (#35114294)
Let's compare Apples to Apples? I was citing Box stock since 2015. FB is more than double its 2015 price.
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Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by MikusR on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @11:26PM (#35065250)
Roblox? This Roblox? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32014754 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28247034
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Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by Ancalagon on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @06:34PM (#35076260)
I never said it was a better company than Meta?

Just that it paid similarly.

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Re:Meta Is Said to Plan Thousands More Layoffs as Soon as Th... by RestlessMind on Saturday March 11, 2023 @07:03PM (#35114275)
Well, the whole point is about "pay as well as Facebook and yet are a better corp for the world". So citing Roblox is pointless.
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