Re:Ask HN: What can I do with my DevOps Experience?
by jen20 on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @12:24PM
(#35058144)
> What we (DevOps) emphatically do not do is on-call. We have a "SRE" team for that (not SRE in any sense of what you think, they deploy new app versions to prod and manage datadog, and manage on-call, they are incapable of writing even basic python).
This sounds like one of the most screwed up environments I've heard of in a while!
Re:Ask HN: What can I do with my DevOps Experience?
by tayo42 on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @12:41PM
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My previous title was sre. I'm looking for a new job and it is a horrible experience because I need to every time dig into what exactly their sre is.
Which is even more annoying because every sre job is some "everyday is different" bs.
Re:Ask HN: What can I do with my DevOps Experience?
by InvaderFizz on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @02:17PM
(#35059822)
Very, very screwed up. Duct tape and bubble gum. My goal over the next 24 months is to get enough of the projects, automation, and other sustainability issues resolved that I can tackle the SRE team problem.
Starting with firing 90% of them once all processes are automated away and they can no longer justify headcount(3x the headcount of DevOps). It will be a battle, that VP has nothing but SRE under them and the only reason they werent fired years ago is because of their connections with the CEO.
Re:Ask HN: What can I do with my DevOps Experience?
by mhio on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @04:34PM
(#35075062)
Sounds like they renamed the app support team to dev ops, and the ops team to SR and were done. Pretty standard move in some organisations to "keep up with the times".
Re:Ask HN: What can I do with my DevOps Experience?
by smcleod on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @01:34PM
(#35059178)
DevOps is a cultural movement, not a job tittle, but if it is to be used as a job tittle to represent the values of the cultural movement one would assume that you'd never operate by "throwing things over the wall" to another team with no skills to contribute fixes, automation etc....
Re:Ask HN: What can I do with my DevOps Experience?
by thrway_pku890 on Thursday March 09, 2023 @06:46AM
(#35080330)
Was a movement. It's long dead on the water and became a soup of different loosely defined roles.
It can range from developer, to pure support engineer, to a jack of all trades, to yaml engineer, to CI/CD maintainer, to Google defined SRE.
Figure out what you want to do, and what you dont want to do, filter job postings and ask questions early in the process.
I'm a "Lead DevOps Engineer", and what that means at my company is that I lead a team doing all of our infrastructure automation(terraform, python), CI pipeline creation and maintenance, update and maintain all the non-prod environments (k8s, docker compose, swarm), infrastructure architecture on all major new projects (since we'll be building the automation to bring those projects up and maintain them), we also get everything else that seems hard to other teams. We build the tools and automation that we use, as well as the tools other teams use. This is important because we provide a common interface to all our teams, even though we work across AWS, Azure, OCI, and on-prem. The developers dont care which cloud their stack is on, that is abstracted away from them.
What we (DevOps) emphatically do not do is on-call. We have a "SRE" team for that (not SRE in any sense of what you think, they deploy new app versions to prod and manage datadog, and manage on-call, they are incapable of writing even basic python).