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Re:Ask HN: How do you start over with 2FA after losing your ... by jkepler on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @10:06AM (#35056120)
Biometric phone security is only secure until a judge or police officer compels you to unlock your phone; and legally you must comply, because your face or finger aren't speech. However, if you use a passphrase, (at least in the US and other countries with string freedom of speech laws) you can't be legally compelled to unlock the phone, as that would impinge on freedom of speech.

I never use biometrics to unlock my phone or computer for that reason.

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Re:Ask HN: How do you start over with 2FA after losing your ... by konha on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @10:18AM (#35056254)
On iPhones you can press Volume Down + Power to disable biometrics (faceid) before you hand it to somebody else or when going through customs etc. It will require your passphrase to unlock then.
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Re:Ask HN: How do you start over with 2FA after losing your ... by geraldhh on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @10:47AM (#35056637)
so the main usecase of this feature is to defeat the nice policeman/customs officer?

thanks! i always wondered

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Re:Ask HN: How do you start over with 2FA after losing your ... by carlosjobim on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @10:20AM (#35056279)
That certainly is a case. Or they could torture and threaten you to give the password.

If this situation happens you can rapidly press the home button with the wrong finger and the phone will demand a pin code. Or you could turn it off. I don't know what recourse people with face unlock have.

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Re:Ask HN: How do you start over with 2FA after losing your ... by huhneverthot on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @12:02PM (#35057770)
Android: long press power, tap lockdown. Your entire point is now just inaccurate. I do this when going through security checkpoints, if I were to get pulled over, and Android auto trihgers it under abnormal conditions upon which I have a decently long device-specific password.
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Re:Ask HN: How do you start over with 2FA after losing your ... by more_corn on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @09:59PM (#35064640)
On iOS you can disable face and Touch ID with Siri “who’s phone is this” or by tapping the power button.
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