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Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by politician on Monday March 06, 2023 @01:36PM (#35045481)
The problem appears when you try to buy a home from a seller entertaining 10 other offers, most of which are cash offers for 10-20% over listing price with escalation clauses. It can be really hard to buy a home, especially in markets like Seattle, because the seller chooses which offer to accept and, all else being equal, will accept the offer with the fewest conditions (no financing required, inspection waived, etc).
Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by the_gastropod on Monday March 06, 2023 @01:43PM (#35045612)
Yep. This. I'm living in a much lower COL area, but it's still crazy. I've been hunting for a house for the past ~6 months. And have been outbid in every offer by someone else waiving inspection, waiving appraisal, and/or paying all-cash. It's wild how many people are apparently able to / willing to behave that way.
Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by lolinder on Monday March 06, 2023 @01:45PM (#35045654)
Yes, this can be a real problem.

The mortgage company that we chose had a program where they did all of the underwriting before we even started making offers, and part of our offer was a certificate entitling the seller to $5000 at the mortgage company's expense if we couldn't get financing. Kind of like extra earnest money from the mortgage company offered as a guarantee that there wouldn't be any problems in closing.

We ended up getting the first house we made an offer on in spite of an insane market, so I guess it worked!

Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by hd95489 on Monday March 06, 2023 @02:05PM (#35045999)
Luck or you just offered enough more that the seller bit. 5k is nothing on a 1m deal.
Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by lolinder on Monday March 06, 2023 @02:54PM (#35046694)
It's not the money that's the point, it's that the mortgage company is putting skin in the game. The value of a cash offer, aside from going above the appraisal value, is that there is no risk of it falling through due to financing problems. The $5k is nothing except that it shows that our offer may as well have been cash as far as that concern goes.
Re:Maybe Treating Housing as an Investment Was a Colossal Mi... by hd95489 on Monday March 06, 2023 @01:51PM (#35045753)
That was 6 months ago offer asking now and you will get it