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Re:Ford files patent to disable car functions for missed pay... by polishdude20 on Sunday March 05, 2023 @10:44PM (#35037305)
Parenting this is the best thing they can be doing for the consumer. Prevent other car companies from including this scummy feature. Now I just need to think "not Ford" when I go buy a car and I'm all good.
Re:Ford files patent to disable car functions for missed pay... by alejohausner on Monday March 06, 2023 @01:08AM (#35037990)
On the other hand, licensing this patent to other auto makers could become a great source of revenue for Ford. I'm sure all auto makers would implement the feature. You won't be able to avoid it.
Re:Ford files patent to disable car functions for missed pay... by lockhouse on Monday March 06, 2023 @07:54AM (#35040390)
I don’t like it for the security aspects of it. If it can be done remotely, someone other than Ford can do it.

However, I think it is ethically okay otherwise. If you don’t fully pay for something you don’t own it and it’s still the property of whoever holds the loan on it.

Re:Ford files patent to disable car functions for missed pay... by rkagerer on Monday March 06, 2023 @12:09AM (#35037710)
Is it so different from SaaS software that locks you out when your credit card renewal fails? (To be clear I'm not a fan of either).
Re:Ford files patent to disable car functions for missed pay... by dattmavis on Monday March 06, 2023 @01:30AM (#35038101)
I would say there are significant differences.

You're not paying towards ownership of a SaaS site. You're paying a monthly subscription fee.

If you're 34 months into a Dropbox subscription you don't own anything. If you're 34 months into your car payments you might have thousands in equity in the car.

Even getting outside of the ethics -- Lots of cities in the US are also automobile-dependent and turning off someone's car seems counter-productive.

We definitely need to push back on these types of controls aggressively, including advocating for consumer protections.

Re:Ford files patent to disable car functions for missed pay... by rkagerer on Thursday March 09, 2023 @10:23AM (#35082123)
That's a really good point, thanks for enlightening me.
Re:Ford files patent to disable car functions for missed pay... by TheLoafOfBread on Monday March 06, 2023 @04:55AM (#35039239)
Pay 0.1BTC or you are not going anywhere. Your local ransomware team.
Re:Ford files patent to disable car functions for missed pay... by hulitu on Monday March 06, 2023 @07:29AM (#35040207)
Message in dashboard: "Unfortunately you haven't paid your last rate. The break will now be disabled. Thank you for choosing Ford."
Re:Ford files patent to disable car functions for missed pay... by viggity on Monday March 06, 2023 @09:16AM (#35041251)
I know most HNers probably haaaate this idea. The upside is that lower repossession costs lower the risk and make goods available to lower wage income workers.
Re:Ford files patent to disable car functions for missed pay... by rolenthedeep on Monday March 06, 2023 @11:20AM (#35042831)
Imagine seriously believing that savings will actually "trickle down" to consumers.

They'll charge a premium for these features.