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Re:Russia Is Getting Around Sanctions to Secure Supply of Ke... by yucky on Saturday March 04, 2023 @10:53AM (#35021694)
I love how we here in the US just assume we have the right to tell Turkey and UAE who they can do business with. As if they don't have their own interests.
Re:Russia Is Getting Around Sanctions to Secure Supply of Ke... by Nocturium on Saturday March 04, 2023 @11:28AM (#35022031)
They are currently sanctions, not an embargo.

If someone wants to trade with Turkey or the UAE, they are free to do so. I admit I'm not current on the most recent sanctions list, but as far as I know, both those countries and companies aren't on it.

On the other hand, suppose they are. Why should it be a given that we trade with whatever country? I'm asking this honestly because I've seen that argument thrown around a lot lately. As in: "the EU should buy Russian gas because it's cheap"... Well, no we don't. We can buy it from whoever we like.

Re:Russia Is Getting Around Sanctions to Secure Supply of Ke... by irl_chad on Saturday March 04, 2023 @11:06AM (#35021812)
Okay, hope their interests aren’t in doing business in the US if they want to circumvent US sanctions.

We absolutely have the right to draw moral lines in the sand: if you do business with brutal dictatorships, you are the enemy too.

Re:Russia Is Getting Around Sanctions to Secure Supply of Ke... by anonymouslambda on Saturday March 04, 2023 @11:12AM (#35021852)
Yeah, but no one likes to get moral lectures from hypocrites. We Americans sure do like self-determination, just not for anyone else.
Re:Russia Is Getting Around Sanctions to Secure Supply of Ke... by mdhb on Saturday March 04, 2023 @11:16AM (#35021894)
Is it lost on you that this specific action is literally in defence of self determination in the context of the entire point of the war. Such an incredibly lazy take.
Re:Russia Is Getting Around Sanctions to Secure Supply of Ke... by irl_chad on Saturday March 04, 2023 @11:13AM (#35021862)
Dictatorships aren’t self determination.
Re:Russia Is Getting Around Sanctions to Secure Supply of Ke... by ghostwriter on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @11:22PM (#35065220)
> if you do business with brutal dictatorships, you are the enemy too.

Why is the US doing business with Saudi Arabia? Let's see how your moral lines bend around the agenda.

Re:Russia Is Getting Around Sanctions to Secure Supply of Ke... by bogomipz on Saturday March 04, 2023 @11:15AM (#35021891)
Sanction and export controls are used by governments around the world as a means of to further their foreign policy, national security goals and economic interests, not just the US. Further these regulations always govern both the export and re-export of the goods and services being sold. They are useless otherwise.

This is playing out right now in the EU in Switzerland and Germany with allowing armaments to be re-exported to Ukraine. [1]

[1] https://www.politico.eu/article/switzerland-rethinks-neutral...

Re:Russia Is Getting Around Sanctions to Secure Supply of Ke... by dilyevsky on Saturday March 04, 2023 @06:47PM (#35025660)
Turkey is a nato member - military alliance that russia is at war with (by their own admission) so it is sad that we even need to tell them anything