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Re:The moral case against equity language by rayiner on Friday March 03, 2023 @12:18AM (#35006109)
It can’t be that complex if virtually every human society came up with two distinct words to express the concepts.

It’s only complicated if you start from the premise that language must accord the same importance to the experience of small minorities as to the experience of the overwhelming majority.

Re:The moral case against equity language by undersuit on Friday March 03, 2023 @12:31AM (#35006180)
But we didn't just stop at two words.
Re:The moral case against equity language by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS on Friday March 03, 2023 @01:06AM (#35006359)
And therein lies our folly
Re:The moral case against equity language by slackdog on Friday March 03, 2023 @01:35AM (#35006519)
Most of us did.
Re:The moral case against equity language by undersuit on Friday March 03, 2023 @01:38AM (#35006540)
lady dame girl gal mama matron missus mistress babe broad doll hag crone vixen slattern
Re:The moral case against equity language by slackdog on Friday March 03, 2023 @01:41AM (#35006559)
All those words seem to describe one of the two sexes. I'm sure you realize that.
Re:The moral case against equity language by undersuit on Friday March 03, 2023 @11:21AM (#35011575)
The person I was replying to said "every human society came up with two distinct words to express the concepts". I of expressed doubt about such a statement.

Then you popped into with a completely different reason. I'm still working on the original argument. We came up with more than two words to express the concept.

Re:The moral case against equity language by slackdog on Friday March 03, 2023 @12:18PM (#35012417)
The claim you made: "there is no simple definition if you want to define man and woman."

Rayiner's response: "It can’t be that complex if virtually every human society came up with two distinct words to express the concepts."

"Two distinct words" plainly refers to the two sexes. Virtually every human society ("most of us") hit upon classifying humans into these two categories, with very rare exceptions that I'm sure you're itching to point out right now. You have tried to perform a sleigh-of-hand "gotcha" by pointing out that there are many words for women and many words for men, but you're barking up the wrong tree if you think you can gaslight a dog like me into believing that is a rebuttal of Rayiner's point.

Re:The moral case against equity language by undersuit on Friday March 03, 2023 @02:05PM (#35013680)
Woman isn't a sex, it's a gender. Female and Male are sexes. OH MY. We have Male, Female, Man, and Woman? I though virtually every human society came up with two distinct words to express the concepts, not 4.