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Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by ricardobeat on Thursday March 02, 2023 @07:04AM (#34994738)
90% of the time people will use their laptops to look at instant messaging, forums, emails, or event try to get some work done. So your boss is not wrong.

You might wanna get an iPad as it is, at least for the moment, socially acceptable in meetings, even with the keyboard cover :)

Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by NikolaNovak on Thursday March 02, 2023 @07:17AM (#34994802)
You're not wrong that it's more socially acceptable.

It's insane though. IPad is fundamentally a media consumption device. I'm a touchless, fast, organized typer on my laptop (I used to be primary screensharer when I was ops manager). All that socially acceptable iPad would do is handicap me severely :-/

Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by piaste on Thursday March 02, 2023 @07:45AM (#34994989)
If you can type touchless, try putting the laptop off to the side, and typing your notes without looking at the screen. The presenter might feel much less ignored if he still has your eye contact.
Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by bathtub365 on Thursday March 02, 2023 @08:24AM (#34995341)
If they can type touchless their laptop doesn’t even need to be within arms length.
Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by Robin_Message on Thursday March 02, 2023 @03:23PM (#35001456)
Bluetooth keyboard and leave your laptop on your desk.
Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by NikolaNovak on Thursday March 02, 2023 @12:54PM (#34999191)
Yup; it's what I do now that I'm remote - I look directly into the camera while I type :). Alternatively, I screenshare so everybody sees / benefits from the notes.
Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by jen20 on Thursday March 02, 2023 @08:24AM (#34995332)
> even try to get some work done.

The horror of trying to do sobering productive at work…

My guess is most of the gains in productivity during COVID are people not paying attention in pointless meetings and doing real work instead of placating socialites’ ego-driven meglomania.

Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by hiq on Thursday March 02, 2023 @09:36AM (#34996150)
> 90% of the time people will use their laptops to look at instant messaging, forums, emails, or even try to get some work done. So your boss is not wrong.

> even try to get some work done

I assume it's not what you meant, but it's interesting nonetheless: if being in this meeting does not mean getting work done, maybe the real problem mandatory attendance?

Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by JohnFen on Thursday March 02, 2023 @10:01AM (#34996448)
I think a well-known problem with meetings is that most of the time, no meaningful work can be done during them.
Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by ryukafalz on Thursday March 02, 2023 @09:41AM (#34996207)
It has me wishing the TRS-80 Model 100/Dynabook form factor had caught on more.

Honestly, yes, I can understand this. A laptop screen pointed towards you feels like a private space, since other people can't easily see it. And indeed, I've definitely gotten work done in meetings for this reason. A device with a screen easily visible to everyone at the table I don't think would have this temptation.

I sometimes use a Model 100 when I need to take notes without distractions, actually.

Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by ecliptik on Thursday March 02, 2023 @09:49AM (#34996310)
A Clockworkpi DevTerm [1] is a modern equivalent of TRS-80 Model 100 and could work for this. Should try bringing mine next time I have to go to an onsite.

Could also use a proper one with a serial/wifi modem and telnet into a remote system to take notes [2].

1. https://www.clockworkpi.com/product-page/devterm-kit-r01

2. https://www.buildon.aws/posts/i-deployed-kubernetes-with-a-1...

Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by AlanYx on Thursday March 02, 2023 @10:19AM (#34996719)
I wish Clockwork Pi would release the DevTerm with a full-size keyboard. Same internals, same everything (even the screen could stay the same size). Without a full-size keyboard it's not really a solid replacement for the Model 100 for writing/notetaking.
Re:Honestly, It's Probably the Phones by ricardobeat on Thursday March 02, 2023 @06:26PM (#35003541)
Holy shit I’ve been dreaming of something like this. Might order one. Thanks!!