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Re:We will not ‘walk out’ of UK, nor comply with any request... by Maxburn on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @07:39AM (#34968604)
I like the attitude an parallels to similar actors; "he must block access to Tutanota - just like Russia and Iran are already doing."

But I'm thinking Signal was more along the lines "we don't want to invite litigation".

Both send the same message.

Re:We will not ‘walk out’ of UK, nor comply with any request... by miroljub on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @08:56AM (#34969301)
If Signal were a truly open distributed system, instead of relying on a centralized almost closed source server, it would not be possible for any government to block it.

And the only thing worse than being blocked, is their "leaving" the country, basically denying the encrypted messaging to the people who need it the most.

I wish that matrix got the attention it deserves, but right now, we are still stuck with this "better than nothing" solution called Signal.

Re:We will not ‘walk out’ of UK, nor comply with any request... by doublebind on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @03:54PM (#34974681)
While I agree that an open and distributed messaging system (such as Waku[1]) can improve things, it’s not enough. Apple Store and Google Play Store are the true gatekeepers. And governments can request Apple or Google to remove an app from the Store at their will (this has happened before).

An app out of these stores has zero possibilities of survival. Average users don’t use (nor want to use) VPNs or hacks to use their phones.

[1] https://waku.org/

Re:We will not ‘walk out’ of UK, nor comply with any request... by Maxburn on Monday March 06, 2023 @07:17AM (#35040141)
Two late thoughts; apple just enabled notifications for web apps in safari. So in theory you could have a messaging app not in the store. Maybe. Not sure what the state of this is in android.

Hopefully soon we will have sideloading on ios too.