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Re:X12 by kstenerud on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @04:22AM (#34967341)
Wayland is the default on RHEL since 2019.

Wayland is the default on Centos since 2019.

Wayland is the default on Ubuntu and Debian since 2022.

In Arch, Wayland is the default for GNOME installs.

Wayland is far from "barely usable"

And yes, I remember 1999. X was a pain to get working properly with many graphics cards. Some things never change...

Re:X12 by ravishi on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @04:05PM (#34974829)
Have you ever tried sharing your screen? Do your organization uses Microsoft Teams? It is barely usable for quite some people.
Re:X12 by vetinari on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @04:21PM (#34975018)
Wayland screen sharing works fine (in Chrome, Webex...). It doesn't work in Teams, but that's Microsoft's issue, since they didn't bother with implementing it.
Re:X12 by tutuca on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @04:56PM (#34975461)
If it's preventing your users to switch to your platform, it's your problem too...
Re:X12 by vetinari on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @05:00PM (#34975527)
Microsoft releasing worse implementation for competing system? How surprising. /s

The linux team client seems to be completely unmaintained and might be thrown away soon. If you need to use teams, use it in a browser.

Re:X12 by danogentili on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @07:49AM (#34981782)
This, teams works just fine in the browser.
Re:X12 by tcmart14 on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @04:19PM (#34988497)
I use linux at home, but have to use Windows at work. Microsoft team's desktop app even runs like ass on Windows.
Re:X12 by yrro on Thursday March 02, 2023 @08:41AM (#34995496)
The Linux Teams client has been unceremoniously abandoned. The debs have been removed from the ms-teams repository. The download instructions haven't been updated, it's managed shockingly poorly.
Re:X12 by vetinari on Thursday March 02, 2023 @02:29PM (#35000617)
the rpm repo is also empty, in the same unceremonial way.
Re:X12 by chmod775 on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @05:16PM (#34975699)
> Do your organization uses Microsoft Teams? It is barely usable for quite some people.

That describes Teams on any platform.

Re:X12 by armistace on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @06:44PM (#34976581)
I'm on Arch on my work machine and it started working with pipewire about 3 months ago... no config necessary just works as intended both screen and window. There are some others at work on Ubuntu LTS but that is because Ubuntu is using ancient packages.
Re:X12 by kelnos on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @07:07PM (#34976817)
Ah, but the reply was about defaults. Do any of those distros ship with Pipewire as the default? If so, I'm sure it hasn't been since 2019 as the original poster claimed.
Re:X12 by oynqr on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @06:28AM (#34981154)
Pretty much all distros ship pipewire. Just not as the default audio server.
Re:X12 by happymellon on Wednesday March 01, 2023 @07:58AM (#34981850)
Fedora has it as default, but that's only been since 2021 not 2019. It's still been a couple of years though.
Re:X12 by yrro on Thursday March 02, 2023 @08:34AM (#34995427)
FYI, the native MS Teams client, which doesn't implement screen capture on Wayland, has been discontinued. You can't even download it any more!

https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams/pool/main/t/te...

Re:X12 by chupasaurus on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @07:51PM (#34977256)
> Wayland is the default on Ubuntu and Debian since 2022.

In Debian, only GNOME has Wayland by default. KDE wouldn't be there for next release, and there's a long list of (unsupported) [0]

[0] https://wiki.debian.org/Wayland#Desktops