Re:You Can Turn Your Backyard into a Biodiversity Hotspot
by bmitc on Monday February 27, 2023 @03:06PM
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I was distinguishing plants from crops. I think it's perfectly fine to be growing non-native vegetables and fruits that you'd like to eat or sell.
Re:You Can Turn Your Backyard into a Biodiversity Hotspot
by wcarron on Monday February 27, 2023 @03:14PM
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Ah, gotcha. Makes sense.
Re:You Can Turn Your Backyard into a Biodiversity Hotspot
by bmitc on Monday February 27, 2023 @03:49PM
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Your points were good though! I haven't yet started gardening for fruits and vegetables but would like to at some point.
Re:You Can Turn Your Backyard into a Biodiversity Hotspot
by SirLJ on Monday February 27, 2023 @05:53PM
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With edibles is getting tricky because everyone is eating everything… sometimes just one bite from a nice big tomato enough to ruin it…. Best to plant a lot to have for you, or plan for the ugly nettings and enclosures…. One thing that usually works are cherry tomatoes enough for you and the critters….
Re:You Can Turn Your Backyard into a Biodiversity Hotspot
by wcarron on Monday February 27, 2023 @06:26PM
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Same for you! Interestingly, contrary to you, my wife and I only ever gardened for produce. Didn't turn out that well with poor soil and drainage, but we tried. Wishing we had the space for it again at our current residence. And, of course, I'd actually like to have more space dedicated to native plants and biodiversity. I love bees, butterflies, moths, hummingbirds and other pollinators. Even small areas of 'nature' (if you can call specifically cultivated areas nature) really improve the enjoyment and charm of a living space.
Re:You Can Turn Your Backyard into a Biodiversity Hotspot
by nonethewiser on Monday February 27, 2023 @04:39PM
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They have the same downsides you identified for plants.
Re:You Can Turn Your Backyard into a Biodiversity Hotspot
by djtriptych on Monday February 27, 2023 @05:11PM
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Is it fair to call it personal opinion if it's also the ecologist consensus viewpoint?
Re:You Can Turn Your Backyard into a Biodiversity Hotspot
by RHSeeger on Monday February 27, 2023 @06:02PM
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Of course. To some people, that viewpoint is what defines it as good. For others, it's beauty. For others, it's pure diversity. For others, it's minimizing the work involved. The choice of what is considered "good" here is a very personal thing.
Re:You Can Turn Your Backyard into a Biodiversity Hotspot
by djtriptych on Monday February 27, 2023 @08:38PM
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Still, it's dismissive to place it into a class of personal opinion, when the colloquial understanding, especially here, is that there is no expectation of evidence behind it.
I think a fairer term here is 'argument'.
Re:You Can Turn Your Backyard into a Biodiversity Hotspot
by wcarron on Monday February 27, 2023 @06:31PM
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The other comment covered my thoughts mostly. Ecology is important. But I can't eat Blackfoot daisy. Not all gardens are there for ecosystem health. Some are for utilitarian purposes.
Re:You Can Turn Your Backyard into a Biodiversity Hotspot
by KaiserPro on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @08:10AM
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If the majority of your plants are native, a few non-native isn't going to hurt, assuming that they are well controlled.
Where they can be useful is that they often bloom at different times, or provide food at the start or end of the season, not furnished by native plants.
This can be really useful for supporting a wider range of species, especially with the seasons expanding/compressing.
I disagree. Native plants are great, but so are tomatoes or some bell and habanero peppers. You're projecting your personal opinions on what makes a garden good. To some, a good garden is defined by its native-plant biodiversity. To others, it's getting fresh herbs for salads at dinner. To others it is something else. It's not an either-or thing. You can plant many things and reap varying benefits.