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Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by Retric on Sunday February 26, 2023 @10:20PM (#34952557)
There’s evidence that it’s more likely than various other theories, there isn’t a smoking gun. That’s the kind of nuance that’s easy to ignore in favor of your preconceived notions because weak evidence is rarely worth changing your mind over.

At a practical level I don’t think there’s much difference between the lab link being a 7% chance vs a 70% chance. What’s more concerning is the potential of future leaks and what responses they might result in. The possibility that local officials get in CYA mode over a possible lab leak of a more dangerous virus is seriously concerning.

Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by tootie on Sunday February 26, 2023 @11:03PM (#34952820)
"There’s evidence that it’s more likely than various other theories,"

None that I've seen.

And the possibility of a future leak is probably unrelated to the possibility of this one having been a leak.

Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by Retric on Sunday February 26, 2023 @11:23PM (#34952932)
“None that I’ve seen.”

Which has little to do with the existence of said evidence. I’ve never seen direct evidence for the year Columbus sailed.

Anyway, many things that would make future leaks less likely also make past leaks less likely. The types of experiments being conducted and the types of labs those experiments are conducted in. Oversight, funding, and systems for reporting safety issues etc etc.

Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by tootie on Sunday February 26, 2023 @11:29PM (#34952960)
I'm responding to you saying there's evidence. To what were you referring?
Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by Retric on Sunday February 26, 2023 @11:31PM (#34952973)
The evidence used by the Energy Department in their assessment.
Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by tootie on Monday February 27, 2023 @07:44AM (#34955742)
The DOE has not, to my knowledge, published their "low confidence" intelligence. Only their conclusion. Which still disagrees with every other agency. So it doesn't seem we actually have more evidence for lab leak.
Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by ehvatum on Monday February 27, 2023 @11:41AM (#34958539)
> Which still disagrees with every other agency.

But that is a lie. From the article:

“The Energy Department now joins the Federal Bureau of Investigation in saying the virus likely spread via a mishap at a Chinese laboratory.”

Re:Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Ag... by mrcsno on Tuesday February 28, 2023 @03:13AM (#34966907)
Calling it a lie is a bit uncharitable. It’s gone from “disagrees with every other agency” to “disagrees with the majority of agencies.” I wouldn’t say that dramatically changes the point.