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Re:Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an ... by driggs on Saturday February 25, 2023 @12:15PM (#34938320)
I came here to post the exact same sentiment and the ordered phrase "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle".

Yes, it's bad that this was advertised as a specific recycling program and involved parties knowingly or unknowingly diverged from that stated plan.

But from a global resource consumption perspective, it's far preferable to re-use good shoes (which also reduces the production of new shoes) than to recycle them for recovered material (which is lossy in terms of energy and materials).

The same argument about shoes may not apply to the specifics of say e-waste - where harmful materials, rare materials, or electrical efficiency come into play - but in the case of this article, we should be happy that usable shoes are being put on feet rather than shredded and chemically decomposed.

Re:Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an ... by peyton on Saturday February 25, 2023 @12:23PM (#34938389)
I think lying about the fate of these shoes is pretty bad and destroys trust. I’d think twice about recycling. “Here’s why that’s a good thing!” doesn’t cut it for me.
Re:Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an ... by brookst on Saturday February 25, 2023 @12:45PM (#34938605)
Are you saying you’d be more likely to throw things away than recycle them because it’s possible that rather than being recycled they will be reused?
Re:Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an ... by cjrp on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:19PM (#34939018)
Or is it more like “well if they lied about that, what else are they lying about”.
Re:Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an ... by natch on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:35PM (#34939182)
I mean, it is Dow Chemical…
Re:Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an ... by cjbgkagh on Saturday February 25, 2023 @02:03PM (#34939400)
That what I was thinking, at least it’s a step up from dumping it in the ocean. It seems people are having to relearn that we can’t trust these companies to actually do the right thing all over again, as if history didn’t exist.
Re:Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an ... by brookst on Saturday February 25, 2023 @11:33PM (#34943057)
So, better to throw decent shoes in the garbage than take a chance of being lied to.
Re:Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an ... by jasonlotito on Saturday February 25, 2023 @12:57PM (#34938755)
> But from a global resource consumption perspective, it's far preferable to re-use good shoes

But they were not good shoes. They had tracking devices put into them. Full stop.

Imagine putting tracking devices into children's shoes and then having them "reused" like this.

Yes, reuse is great. And if that's what they said they were going to do, awesome. But that's not what happened here, and exposes a very real problem.

Re:Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an ... by thatguy0900 on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:54PM (#34939328)
You can put a tracking device in anything and give it to a goodwill right now. This feels like a very strange angle to take. Especially when these shoes traveled accross countries.
Re:Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an ... by contingo on Saturday February 25, 2023 @01:41PM (#34939223)
From the article:

>The donated shoes that ended up in Indonesia have added to a flood of illegal second-hand clothing pouring into that developing country, according to a senior government official there, who said such cast-offs pose a public health risk, undercut its local textile industry and often pile more waste into its already bulging landfills.

Re:Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an ... by hgsgm on Saturday February 25, 2023 @08:19PM (#34942129)
Those are mostly nonsense reasons.

> who said such cast-offs pose a public health risk

Obviously phony.

> undercut its local textile industry

Free stuff is better than having a local industry. The government can tax shoe wearers to pay the local industry to make more stuff or just relax.

> often pile more waste into its already bulging landfills.

That one is legit.

Re:Dow said it was recycling our shoes. We found them at an ... by PeterisP on Saturday February 25, 2023 @05:17PM (#34941002)
But they aren't being "shredded and chemically decomposed" - they're being sent as "second-hand stuff" where the good items are reused, but the others are dumped or burned, and nothing is actually recycled. And of course, the reused ones are also dumped or burned, just later.