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Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by jefftk on Thursday February 23, 2023 @04:39PM (#34916888)
This is not a service we provide. It is not a service we have ever provided, nor a service we have any plans to provide. Indeed, it is a not a service we are technically capable of providing.

I'm curious: why not? It seems like a lot of people would be interested in this if you could figure out how to provide it.

Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by iamflimflam1 on Thursday February 23, 2023 @04:44PM (#34916959)
The service is possible:

If you are a mobile network operator.

Or, you can convince people to install something on their phone that sends you their location along with their phone number.

Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by ceejayoz on Thursday February 23, 2023 @04:44PM (#34916960)
How would you go about reliably providing the location of someone's mobile phone without being their cell phone carrier?
Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by jraph on Thursday February 23, 2023 @05:05PM (#34917247)
By partnering with said cell phone carriers.

But I hope it would be illegal.

Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by em_te on Thursday February 23, 2023 @09:45PM (#34920116)
If movies have taught us anything, they need to remain on the call for at least 30 seconds for it to be traced.
Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by simonw on Thursday February 23, 2023 @04:45PM (#34916979)
How would this work?

If a phone number is for a mobile phone then looking up the location doesn't make sense at all: mobile phones are mobile.

I guess you could try and crawl an index of business phone numbers and associate those with the listed address for businesses, but that's a completely different business from running a geocoder.

You could provide a bit of geographical information about the first three digits of a US phone number. I imagine that's not what users are actually looking for though.

Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by jefftk on Thursday February 23, 2023 @06:15PM (#34918182)
Phone numbers have geographic structure. For mobile phones it's just the area code, but for landlines there is also information in the exchange portion. For example, I grew up in Medford MA which is 781-39x-xxxx.

I expect there are also patterns in other countries?

Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by raphyjake on Thursday February 23, 2023 @06:43PM (#34918482)
Yeah, but you can probably use https://github.com/google/libphonenumber for that.
Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by pixl97 on Thursday February 23, 2023 @06:49PM (#34918559)
Network portability. While there can be a small amount of correlation to the entire zipcode, that quickly breaks down in portal number blocks and they can end up anywhere in the US.

Also, with VOIP it could reference where a number doesn't have long distance fees, but has nothing to do with where it is.

Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by PeterisP on Thursday February 23, 2023 @07:03PM (#34918696)
> I expect there are also patterns in other countries?

No, I believe this concept of mobile phone numbers being tied to localities is specific just to a few countries - USA, Canada and I think South Africa - due to how local calls were billed there; and for all other countries the mobile numbers were allocated from a single country-wide pool so their mobile phone numbers have no geographic structure other than the country code.

Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by 9034725985 on Thursday February 23, 2023 @08:07PM (#34919277)
What if there were a service where anyone can opt in to share their own location information? If there was a way to get across the hurdle of how does the service provider know if the person is indeed who they claim to be…

My thought is something like a phone number, email address, or domain name bypasses this problem. It is fairly trivial to verify you have access to a phone number, email address, domain name. Feels like this is one of those chicken and egg problems though. Why would anyone list their location at my service if nobody queries it and why would anyone query my service if nobody lists their information with me?

Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by fami-com on Thursday February 23, 2023 @10:01PM (#34920220)
Not in any European country that I know of. For example, the UK's geographical codes start with 01 and 02 (020 is London, 0238 is Southampton, 02820 is Ballycastle) and are never assigned to mobile phone numbers, which always start with 07.

Other countries work in much the same way, except the prefixes are, of course, different.

Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by squeaky-clean on Friday February 24, 2023 @01:21AM (#34921489)
This is what the inaccurate youtube tutorials do that they complain about in the linked blog post. It only gets you country level lookups for most phone numbers, county level at the very best. And it turns out users don't want that.

There's also the issue of moving. I have a Florida phone number. I haven't lived in Florida in a long time.

Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by cactusplant7374 on Thursday February 23, 2023 @05:15PM (#34917371)
You mean if they could figure out how to illegally track millions of people?
Re:ChatGPT is falsely recommending us for a service we don't... by insane_dreamer on Thursday February 23, 2023 @05:20PM (#34917430)
> a lot of people would be interested in this

you mean like scammers and stalkers? (ok, and probably Meta)