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Re:Vikings went to Mediterranean for ‘summer jobs’ as mercen... by fakedang on Thursday February 23, 2023 @02:56PM (#34915597)
Exactly. The Turks never destroyed Byzantium. The Byzantines destroyed themselves, and made life shitty for most of Europe in the process (a la the Crusades).
Re:Vikings went to Mediterranean for ‘summer jobs’ as mercen... by ElfinTrousers on Thursday February 23, 2023 @02:59PM (#34915648)
Right--the Turks were just in a good position, literally, to pick up the pieces afterwards.
Re:Vikings went to Mediterranean for ‘summer jobs’ as mercen... by fakedang on Friday February 24, 2023 @05:51AM (#34923192)
I mean, it started with Manzikert, where the Turks just did their usual nomad stuff, which the Byzantines could have averted - if they weren't busy fighting amongst themselves and deserting the army.