News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:ThinkPad 701C with a Framework brain transplant by bartislartfast on Thursday February 23, 2023 @06:34AM (#34909231)
I couldn't afford to buy myself the t25, always wondered if it was worth the money. sounds like it was!
Re:ThinkPad 701C with a Framework brain transplant by NikolaNovak on Thursday February 23, 2023 @06:41AM (#34909271)
It depends.

On the surface, not at all. It's a t470 with a massive marketing spiel.

On the other hand, if you spend 10hrs a day on a laptop, you'll keep it for many years, and keyboard layout is important to you, it may be a worthile choice priced per hour of usage. You can also think of it as pre-moded and warrantied thinkPad :-).

I have a couple of t480 and e595 around too but much prefer the t25. I also have a client mandated HP that, while it does have a track point, has an apple style format and keyboard that drives me up the wall. Non sensical unique layout, combined up and down arrows (WHY?? There's so much room on that side! So clearly a choice of pretty over useful. The t25 arrow keys extend down past space key, so they are full size, which neatly demonstrates their priority aligns with mine :)

Re:ThinkPad 701C with a Framework brain transplant by petodo on Thursday February 23, 2023 @06:51AM (#34909318)
You spend 10 hours each day out of office/house? Seems like problem easily solvable by external keyboard (you can keep same one at home and at office), that's what I do. I have T520 (specifically bought originally for keyboard instead newer models) and hooked up wireless full size keyboard, mouse and 32" external display since msot of the time I work from home, if I travel I just take wireless mouse with me.
Re:ThinkPad 701C with a Framework brain transplant by NikolaNovak on Thursday February 23, 2023 @07:17AM (#34909484)
Agreed; I do have the Microsoft Skulpt keyboards for both client HP and my T25 laptop (plus monitors on stands etc).

But... life! :). Two very young kids and wife who need support through the day, so I end up using laptop as a lap-top frequently enough :). I take my dad to a doctor appointment, or work from friend's home, etc etc. Overall, laptop's keyboard is still important for my personal use-cases.

Re:ThinkPad 701C with a Framework brain transplant by bartislartfast on Thursday February 23, 2023 @07:02AM (#34909374)
Is it possible to put the t25 keyboard into a t470 or t480?
Re:ThinkPad 701C with a Framework brain transplant by NikolaNovak on Thursday February 23, 2023 @07:18AM (#34909494)
Not sure. I've heard before there's a slight plastic piece you may need to dremel. It IS a bigger keyboard / differently shaped, just looking at my T25 sitting next to my T480. As well, sourcing T25 keyboard in the first place may not be trivial - it was a very limited run model.

Some historical discussion on the topic:

https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=125246

Re:ThinkPad 701C with a Framework brain transplant by hoistbypetard on Thursday February 23, 2023 @07:57AM (#34909870)
Here are details of how someone put together a t480 with the t25 keyboard. It's an expensive project:

https://www.xyte.ch/mods/t25-frankenpad/