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Re:Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for U... by Dalewyn on Thursday February 23, 2023 @05:52AM (#34909005)
No, in fact the rules specify a "Github" among others as examples of "Template engine websites, tools, and sites that generate HTML from text, markdown, or script files" that you are "NOT permitted" (their emphasis) to use.

Translating that into practical terms, it means "no Github", and also "no Jekyll" and all the other examples named and not named.

Re:Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for U... by weird-eye-issue on Thursday February 23, 2023 @07:07AM (#34909412)
The Internet also allows such behavior so really it shouldn't have been allowed to use the Internet either.

A reasonable person would realize the key part is "Template engine" and would think they are okay as long as they avoid those. They did avoid that, and still got disqualified. That is why it isn't reasonable

Re:Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for U... by Dalewyn on Thursday February 23, 2023 @07:34AM (#34909621)
And such a person after being disqualified should learn their lesson to read and understand the rules thoroughly.

The rule in question even distinguishes between "Template engine websites" and "sites that generate HTML"; if you refuse to read beyond the first comma you are being disingenuous let alone being ignorant.

As an aside, "the internet" doesn't automagically generate HTML for you. Unless I missed a memo and we can just get HTML by sticking a cable into the wall. :V

Re:Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for U... by weird-eye-issue on Thursday February 23, 2023 @08:44AM (#34910464)
Github doesn't automatically generate HTML for you anymore than the Internet does.
Re:Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for U... by cxr on Thursday February 23, 2023 @07:25AM (#34909548)
Here's what you said:

> The rules don't specify "github.io" or "load .md files", it broadly specifies "Github" the website "that generate[s] HTML from text" in no uncertain terms.

And that's just not true; the no-GitHub-whatsoever interpretation that you're pushing simply can't be described as "no[t] uncertain". In fact, I'd wager that a polling would reveal that most folks in a position to interpret the rules would come away quite certain that it isn't forbidden to use GitHub qua code host.

Re:Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for U... by Dalewyn on Thursday February 23, 2023 @07:31AM (#34909592)
The rule closes off with, their emphasis, "NOT permitted".

If that combined with a specific name drop are "uncertain" to you, you should retake your English classes.

Re:Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for U... by cxr on Thursday February 23, 2023 @07:46AM (#34909736)
Perhaps you should bone up on your Latin.

GitHub qua "template engine website" is "NOT permitted". That's certain.

GitHub qua code code host? Not only is that, in fact, not stated "in no uncertain terms", but insisting that it's both forbidden and that it's clear that it's forbidden comes across as trying to will your way to truth.

Re:Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for U... by Dalewyn on Thursday February 23, 2023 @08:02AM (#34909950)
The rule states "... sites that generate HTML ... such as ... GitHub ... are NOT permitted."

Read that rule again, specifically "sites /that/ generate HTML" (emphasis mine).

You are not permitted to use sites that generate HTML, period. Even if you use a "site that generates HTML" like Github only as a file repository, that is still against the rule.

Your argument would be fair if the rule read like "using sites, such as Github, to generate HTML are not permitted", but that is not what the rule says.

Re:Disqualified from a National Web Design Competition for U... by cxr on Thursday February 23, 2023 @08:10AM (#34910039)
I am not quibbling about whether the no-GitHub-whatsoever interpretation is an unreasonable interpretation of what's in the rules. I am specifically raising the issue of the hyperbolic and inappropriate use of the phrase "in no uncertain terms" in what you wrote.