Re:The age of cargo cult Agile must end
by tootie on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @11:49PM
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Having lived through a lot of different orgs, following all the rigor of textbook scrum is like training wheels for effective agile. Running with true agility and without the ceremonies requires a disciplined team. I've seen some undisciplined, immature and just flat out mediocre teams that will just flounder without the training wheels. I've seen plenty of highly disciplined teams that have really internalized the meaning of agile delivery and don't need to be told all the steps and will actually self-organize. You just have to calibrate your level of rigidity for who your team is.
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Re:The age of cargo cult Agile must end
by dalyons on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @12:19AM
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i think this is a very insightful take which i totally agree with. Although I have also seen many high functioning teams who could have reached self-organizing/self-whatever, but they arent allowed to raise to that next level because the scrum orthodoxy is mandated/unquestionable. Its frustrating.
Re:The age of cargo cult Agile must end
by tootie on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @11:52AM
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Yeah I think the common storyline is that a manager who was trained in an immature organization and has seen the training wheels approach be successful decides that they can repeat their success by following the same steps every single time. To be a good manager to have to manage to your team, not to a set of rules. That's not easy for a lot of people.