Spy Balloon Simulator

Re:Spy Balloon Simulator by itslennysfault on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @04:55PM (#34888084)

Also, they said the balloon had "limited steering capability" which I assume means it could nudge itself in a direction or at least adjust it's altitude.

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Re:Spy Balloon Simulator by shagie on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @05:26PM (#34888545)

Look at https://www.aviationweather.gov/windtemp with the levels on the side for different altitude.

It is possible for the balloon to change its altitude and then pick up different wind directions and velocities.

https://x.company/projects/loon/

> To identify helpful wind patterns, Loon used advanced predictive models to create interactive maps of the skies. These maps allowed the team to determine the wind speed and direction at specific altitudes, times, and locations. The team then developed smart algorithms to help determine the most effective flight paths through the varying wind layers. With the aid of these algorithms, the balloons could accurately sail the winds over thousands of kilometers to reach a desired location and remain clustered around those destinations in order to deliver consistent connectivity below.

And https://x.company/blog/posts/drifting-efficiently-through-th... gets into it more.

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Re:Spy Balloon Simulator by Aperocky on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @05:42PM (#34888749)

> It is possible for the balloon to change its altitude and then pick up different wind directions and velocities.

I've tried multiple different levels from 090 to 520, and it seems the deviation within level is extremely minimal.

i.e. maybe a difference between 70deg and 75deg, but if it's going in the general direction of east, there's not an altitude to turn around or even sidetrack.

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Re:Spy Balloon Simulator by shagie on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @05:51PM (#34888845)

That's today with today's weather patterns, and you're only up to 52,000 feet. The spy balloon was working in the altitudes of 60,000 to 120,000.

Look at +6 hours at GPI (Glacier Park in Montana). At 34,000 its easterly at 24,000 its westerly.

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Re:Spy Balloon Simulator by UncleOxidant on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @04:59PM (#34888144)

Yeah, there's no way to adjust altitude with this simulation. It apparently assumes that it reaches some (unspecified ) altitude and just stays there?

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Re:Spy Balloon Simulator by wkat4242 on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @11:09PM (#34891523)

Isn't it more like a zeppelin / blimp if it has any steering capability at all? I always thought that was the main difference to a balloon.

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Re:Spy Balloon Simulator by shagie on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @01:42AM (#34892438)

Airships like a Zeppelin or blimp have some propulsive component to them that let them navigate without the wind.

A balloon can only navigate by catching different winds at different altitudes. When you can control the altitude from 60,000 feet to 120,000 feet there is a significant amount of variation in the direction of winds.

https://www.govtech.com/question-of-the-day/what-is-now-stee...

https://blog.x.company/drifting-efficiently-through-the-stra...

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