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Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by zozbot234 on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @02:43PM (#34885966)
> ... the union of wisdom and emptiness ...

Ah, the extent that some people will go through to avoid acknowledging God. It's like some people take stubborn pleasure in being purposely nihilistic and strenuously denying all that's good about the world. How this can be part of a supposedly spiritual practice, I just can't understand.

Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by cybervaz on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @03:17PM (#34886481)
They think they are on a journey yo self enlightenment when they're actually in a very dangerous road to spiritual weakness, causing damage to their souls and leaving gaps to be used by entities that they'll not feel any pleasure of knowing.

That sense of impeding doom is nothing more than those spiritual entities oppressing with overwhelming power them by those gaps.

We are locked out of that world for a reason. The safe means to get unlocked is by getting your soul to borrow the power of God and slowly expose yourself to such world. Other than that, self enlightenment is just wishful thinking of empty vessels.

Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by DontchaKnowit on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @05:30PM (#34888593)
Word. The more I explore the the world of occult practices throughout history the more I am convinced that it is always an excercise in self destruction.

Our intentions, understanding, morality, sense of self, sense of direction, is so frail. A man who believes he can manufacture these things for himself (which is, in my opinion, wfundamentally what occultists are doing) is doomed to spiritual sufferring.

Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by akomtu on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @03:53PM (#34887100)
The original term behind "emptiness" is a lot richer than this english word. That's why many books leave those words as is, e.g. rig-pa.

"Emptiness" of your mind means something like a thin soap bubble around you. This bubble acts as a lens, it can enlarge arbitrary things, it can create stable patterns on its surface, and all that is useful, but it blocks whatever is outside the bubble. In its natural state it would be a perfect invisible sphere, letting you see outside: this union of clarity and emptiness creates wisdom. You are still going to use this bubble as a whiteboard for your thoughts, but you'll also know how to see thru it.

The concept of emptiness applies to material world in general: the western science calls it space-time, the idea that any thing can turn into any other thing, for both are fundamentally just motions of energy that has no natural shape. Buddhism tries to teach this basic idea in different terms.

For some reason that I don't quite understand, the founders of the three religions had fragmented the truth: buddhism teaches wisdom, christianity teaches love and islam teaches action - the three aspects of the spirit. Perhaps they thought that mixing everything into one bag would be too difficult to grasp, or maybe they hope it will make the peoples collaborate to assemble the pieces.

Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by elbear on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @04:30PM (#34887706)
Buddhism also teaches love. The Heart Practices are an example.
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by mtalantikite on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @04:50PM (#34887999)
It's quite common to first encounter the teachings on emptiness (sunyata) and be confused into thinking it's about nihilism. However, nihilism is considered one of the two extreme views that leads to suffering in Buddhism -- the other being eternalism -- and both are explicitly argued against. Thich Nhat Hanh has a great book that helps clarify the teachings on sunyata [1].

I also would point out that if anything Buddhism is life-affirming and immensely hopeful, not denying what's good in the world. It teaches that there's a way out of suffering right here and right now, and it's available to every being without exclusion. The fourth noble truth is the spiritual practice to make that happen. Every meditation session in Mahayana and Vajrayana lineages have the common preliminaries, which includes love and compassion for all beings.

[1] https://plumvillage.org/books/the-other-shore/