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Re:Thread on Andreessen Horowitz and 'zero interest rate phe... by bombcar on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @08:45AM (#34881024)
If you’re worried about backblaze failing you, grab some local storage and do some manual physical offline backups you can take offsite.

Even monthlies have a value in the worst case scenario.

Re:Thread on Andreessen Horowitz and 'zero interest rate phe... by ethbr0 on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @08:57AM (#34881178)
Your comment made me wonder if there's anyone out there with regularly-taken long-persistence (tape, optical media, etc.) backups in their personal basement.

It seems a very specific Venn intersection to utilize technology to a high degree, but also to imagine and prepare for its worst case failure.

Maybe the NZ tech-prepper crowd?

Re:Thread on Andreessen Horowitz and 'zero interest rate phe... by james_a_craig on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @09:38AM (#34881664)
I keep an LTO tape robot around for just exactly that reason. I trust backblaze, but I don't trust them to the point of not writing off a weekly/monthly/yearly tape set.
Re:Thread on Andreessen Horowitz and 'zero interest rate phe... by bombcar on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @09:13AM (#34881376)
There are dozens of us! I make regular yearlies that go "basement" and never get overwritten. Has come in useful very rarely, maybe it was worth the cost?
Re:Thread on Andreessen Horowitz and 'zero interest rate phe... by ethbr0 on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @09:24AM (#34881495)
What media? Curious!
Re:Thread on Andreessen Horowitz and 'zero interest rate phe... by bombcar on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @11:52AM (#34883384)
I use RDX removable drives, actually, treat them as hard drives.
Re:Thread on Andreessen Horowitz and 'zero interest rate phe... by bigtunacan on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @10:40PM (#34891353)
A company I previously worked at (self-hosted) all production servers were RAID 5, plus continual cloud backups, with nightly backups that rotated weekly and monthly backups that were shipped out of state and stored in a disaster recovery facility in the event of a total catastrophe (earthquake, hurricane, etc).

The off-site backup storage was required by several of our largest customers due to the critical nature of our software.

Re:Thread on Andreessen Horowitz and 'zero interest rate phe... by dgacmu on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @09:04AM (#34881271)
I'm not really. We have onsite backups + off-site to backblaze. I'm comfortable with that for where we are. (We run on-prem for most things that involve a lot of data or GPUs.)
Re:Thread on Andreessen Horowitz and 'zero interest rate phe... by nextaccountic on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @12:40PM (#34884087)
If you worry about backblaze, the solution isn't to have yet another backup, it's to test your backup recovery process regularly

The risk from not being able to recover your data because of something wrong with your process (like, you are not backing up all the data you need) dwarfs the risk from backblaze to lose your data

Re:Thread on Andreessen Horowitz and 'zero interest rate phe... by bombcar on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @12:54PM (#34884307)
That's another type of risk, but if all your backups are in backblaze, you're exposed to "single provider" risk which can become very real very quickly (and not only by backblaze going bankrupt overnight).

Of course, that risk may be entirely acceptable; it's all about risk mitigation and trade-offs, not perfect security.

Re:Thread on Andreessen Horowitz and 'zero interest rate phe... by vram22 on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @01:56PM (#34885266)
>If you worry about backblaze, the solution isn't to have yet another backup, it's to test your backup recovery process regularly

The solution is to do both, or all three (or n), where #3 is another backup process. And to test the backups of all processes by trying to read or restore them (onto empty disks) regularly.

I.e., somewhere on a continuum between zero or minimal and the above, depending on how critical your business is.

Because Murphy's Law.

Edited to add:

And how critical your job is (to you).

Of course there is much more to the whole issue, like funds, PHBs, etc.

- Bildert.