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Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by mahathu on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @06:47AM (#34879946)
You're describing a psychosis.
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by bary12 on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @07:01AM (#34880079)
It's only a problem if they experience psychosis in their daily life when they don't want to. Any mental illness is only considered an illness when it causes impairment of function. other than that, probably equivalent to hallucinatory drugs.
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by detourdog on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @07:02AM (#34880104)
Maybe everyone should experience a little psychosis.
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by kayodelycaon on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @09:28AM (#34881540)
Having had two psychotic breaks, I do not recommend the experience. The last one caused something like hardware-level damage that took years for my brain to recover from.
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by detourdog on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @09:46AM (#34881748)
No doubt they are serious. After I made my comment I thought about editing it provide nuance.

My problem is more about language and giving names to things and society adherence to the mean. As children we experience many psychotic breaks as we adjust to the world. It could be that as we mature the frequency is reduced but that doesn't mean the episodes are inherently bad. They could be a normal part of a consciousness's maturation.

Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by kayodelycaon on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @10:28AM (#34882194)
> As children we experience many psychotic breaks as we adjust to the world.

Neat, I didn’t know this. Where could I read about it? :)

Most of the google results I’m getting talk about childhood schizophrenia. (Which is a thing and quite serious.)

Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by detourdog on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @10:48AM (#34882431)
Sorry I'm winging it based on experience:) That just happens to be my observation and why I spoke up.
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by arbitrage on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @11:31AM (#34883059)
so what you mean to say is that you're just making things up as you go? neat.
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by detourdog on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @11:55AM (#34883419)
True, but I don't see that as distinguishing me from anyone else.
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by mahathu on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @01:14PM (#34884591)
Experiencing psychotic breaks in your childhood distinguishes you from other people though. It is not a common experience.
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by detourdog on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @02:02PM (#34885373)
These may be original thoughts conceived by an individual. If one needs third party verification for ideas read no further.

I see great similarity in childhood tantrums and psychotic breaks. I believe a more warn/mature consciousness may have a negative reaction to large shifts changes in its perceptual comprehension. There can be a number of causes for that change which may affect duration.

As for childhood psychotic breaks. I believe they are common. The undeveloped consciousness is so malleable that it is just part of perceiving and comprehending the world. As we mature we experience fewer upheavals but we also gather neuroses.

I'm surprised to have my credentials questioned on an anonymous Internet forum.

Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by kayodelycaon on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @01:28PM (#34884798)
Either we have different definitions of psychotic break or you're a pretty high outlier. I don't know anyone from my bipolar support group who had a psychotic break before puberty. Most of them haven't had one.

I had bipolar symptoms at age 5 and severe depression at 9, but didn't have a break until I was 26.

Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by detourdog on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @02:07PM (#34885434)
I grew up in a dynamic environment with plenty therapy and hospitalizations. There is definitely something on my mother's side. Suffice to say that I have a lifetime of experience. I think about the human side and the philosophical side. I'm only speaking from life experience and an effort to frame and understand the issues.
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by ghoastl on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @06:50AM (#34879976)
I am describing my experience. If you make the choice to medicalize my words, that is your own interpretation. But you were not there, you do not know.
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by fluoridation on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @07:02AM (#34880095)
You yourself describe it as a hallucinatory state, though. Were you aware that you were hallucinating at the time, or is it only in retrospect that you're able to realize that?
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by akomtu on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @04:47PM (#34887935)
In a country of deaf men, would hearing sounds count as hallucinations?
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by fluoridation on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @10:44PM (#34891374)
If a person was born who could hear radio waves, would it count as a hallucination, or would we be able to design an experiment to test whether they can actually hear radio waves?
Re:When Buddhism Goes Bad – How My Mindfulness Practice Led ... by akomtu on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @04:33AM (#34893490)
Same question for hearing neutrinos or dark energy waves.