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Re:Was the Nord Stream 2 Rupture an Accidental Catalyst? by ggm on Sunday February 19, 2023 @10:50PM (#34864733)
If you posit poor weld quality lead to one event but then argue this catelyzed an active attack as the second event, why do you not actively discuss weld quality as the root cause of both events?

I see no need for there to have BEEN a second attack, if you posit weld quality caused one failure, its actually more plausible weld quality is an issue overall, than something was done.

The ships could have been doing remote sensing to try and test weld quality, as much as laying munitions.

It feels like partial application of Occams razor or something.

Admitting they did a shit job of laying critical infrastructure is probably hard, for a highly distorted economy. The risk of achieving a window-ejection event, is high.

Re:Was the Nord Stream 2 Rupture an Accidental Catalyst? by htag on Sunday February 19, 2023 @11:51PM (#34865021)
This is stated in the article.

The theory is that explosives on NS1 were detonated because the failure of NS2 would have triggered an inspection of NS1 that would have revealed the previously planted explosives.

Re:Was the Nord Stream 2 Rupture an Accidental Catalyst? by ianburrell on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:01AM (#34865077)
Not mentioned in article, it also explains why the NS1 was blown up 17 hours later than NS2. Would expect coordinated attack to occur simultaneously.

Also, it explains why NS2 leak was distance from NS1. If coordinated attack, would expect one ship to lay explosives on both pipelines close together.

Re:Was the Nord Stream 2 Rupture an Accidental Catalyst? by jacknews on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:26AM (#34865554)
How do you trigger these kinds of things? I don't think radio works at depth. So you need to actually get close enough for a sonar ping or whatever? Hmmm, 80km in 17hrs...
Re:Was the Nord Stream 2 Rupture an Accidental Catalyst? by sgc on Sunday February 19, 2023 @11:54PM (#34865034)
Well, because as he said, they so far confirm to have found explosive residue at one site, and not the other. And, as stated, there was suspicious activity of a ship directly over the site for a week prior to the attack, where explosive residues have been confirmed, and not over the other site.
Re:Was the Nord Stream 2 Rupture an Accidental Catalyst? by brutusborn on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:53AM (#34865356)
Because the theory is straw-clutching to discredit Hersh. These kind of pipelines have extremely rigorous testing regimes. The probability that a weld defect caused failure in a non-operational pipeline is tiny.
Re:Was the Nord Stream 2 Rupture an Accidental Catalyst? by orwin on Monday February 20, 2023 @04:57AM (#34866707)
One of my dad's close friends when he was a companion (compagnons du devoir, idk if it exists in the US) worked on submarine welds. He would agree with you (he just retired because army have early pension)

A second welded for EDF on thermic generators, including nuclear. He would have agreed with you, even when he was detached to China. Until 2010. Now he rants about quality control not doing their jobs, 28 years old managers who never welded once in their life who can't bother showing up on the site, and the resp ignoring his warnings for years. I'd say the probability is at least small, definitely not tiny.