As much as this is an obvious joke, it’s lazy and dangerous. Quite easily distinguishable from what this post is about. Conflating rewriting history with treating historical fictional works as living documents are two separate things, that deserve separate space for debate.

Dangerous? Go outside

Spot on. But it's a degree of nuance the anti-woke mob don't want to understand. It's good to see posts that try stamp out the culture war flames.

Dangerous in what way? Honest question

So you think editing out offensive wording in fiction is equivalent to changing who the protagonists were in a historical event?

That is both silly and a hyperbolic attempt to shutdown a fair discussion that reasonable people might form differing conclusions from. Censorship isn't the only tool against free speech.

That still doesn't explain how the hyperbole is dangerous.

Shutting down a reasonable conversation you don't agree with is tantamount to censorship. If you don't consider that dangerous, well again, reasonable people will disagree.

That's really what you think the wokeness warriors want - historical revisionism?

Well yeah. It already is taken as fact in many circles that the primary purpose and intent of the American legal system and government was the subjugation of minorities.

While I think there is some value and truth in critical analysis of race, gender, or governance that challenge prevailing assumptions, many people have lost the plot entirely and any positive context

> It already is taken as fact in many circles

You can really say this about anything. Not that I am disagreeing with you, but it’s a dubious way to frame anything you wish to state.

Sure, I agree it isn't very specific, but I wasn't trying to make a general claim, just provide a hopefully recognizable example of revisionist history.

I think it would be different if I was claiming that most people believe this narrative, or something like that.

I could have pointed to some specific academics who feel this way, but I'm not sure that is any more convincing. Basically any example can be ignored with a no true scottsman argument if someone is obstinate instead of curious.

Can you please provide a (credible or somehow representative) source claiming that the primary purpose and intent of the American legal system and government was the subjugation of minorities.

Yes. Look at the 1619 project. Historical revisionism is exactly what that is all about.

Revisionism tries to change facts. 1619 is another interpretation of history that can coexist with others. No one stops you from teaching or believing the traditional narrative.

From Forbes: Jonathan Zimmerman, an educational historian at the University of Pennsylvania, believes that teaching “The 1619 Project” alongside other interpretations of history “represents a huge opportunity to teach students what history actually is: an act of interpretation.”

This is typical conservative misrepresentative simplification and wailing overreaction. Also see "They want to take away our hamburgers".

1619 is changing facts, you don’t get to promulgate lies along with them by trying to classify it as “interpretations”. The things they teach are a lies. And the more that lies are taught the worse we are as a society.

And I’m a GenX liberal btw I just call out bullshit and lies when I see them from both sides. And it’s typical millenial/Gen z liberal fascists that like to classify anyone they don’t agree with as “conservative”. There’s a huge number of centrist liberals like myself that are sick of the lies and the tide is turning against liberal fascists that are ruining what it means to be liberal.

I stand corrected. Yes, 1619 is revisionism, a term which is common usage is actually closer to negationism. But I was sloppy with my choice of words.

Calling out inaccuracy is a good thing. This issue generally is still an overreaction. And I did not call you a racist.

Well nothing else is sacred to zealots, so it's not unimaginable.

Pretty sure Zuckerberg is working on that videogame as we speak for his metaverse.

Well now that you've written it, it shall be hallucinated, at the very least.

This is true, now more than ever I wonder how humans will fight back against the ever watchful eye of AI. The mops are wet with moon drapes.

Probably by not fighting and just loving.