Re:Why Firms Are Struggling with the U.S. Economy’s Soft Lan...
by datavirtue on Saturday February 18, 2023 @02:15PM
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Let's not wish any workers to be "flogged." Google workers deserve their pay and others deserve more. What happens to them happens to me. Don't take the "divide and conquer" bait.
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Re:Why Firms Are Struggling with the U.S. Economy’s Soft Lan...
by spacemadness on Saturday February 18, 2023 @03:44PM
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It gets me that there are so many people on HN against labor, then I remind myself that the site exists due to founding tech companies and that there are folks on here that just want a bigger whip.
Re:Why Firms Are Struggling with the U.S. Economy’s Soft Lan...
by treis on Saturday February 18, 2023 @03:52PM
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Or some of us see echoes of Detroit 1950 in today's tech industry.
Re:Why Firms Are Struggling with the U.S. Economy’s Soft Lan...
by AndrewKemendo on Saturday February 18, 2023 @05:12PM
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I'm curious which specific aspects you are referring to that have echos?
Re:Why Firms Are Struggling with the U.S. Economy’s Soft Lan...
by treis on Saturday February 18, 2023 @06:07PM
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Companies that dominated their sector, got fat and lazy, and then were disrupted by foreign competition.
Re:Why Firms Are Struggling with the U.S. Economy’s Soft Lan...
by AndrewKemendo on Saturday February 18, 2023 @07:09PM
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At this point I think it's clear to say this is not correct.
In fact the capital class lobbied hard for China being admitted to the WTO pushed hardest by Kissinger, NAFTA [1] and other legislation and restructuring to make offshoring easier in order to suppress both wages and labor power.
This was Ross Perot's entire platform [2]:
“You implement that NAFTA, the Mexican trade agreement, where they pay people a dollar an hour, have no health care, no retirement, no pollution controls,” Perot said during the second presidential debate in October 1992, “and you’re going to hear a giant sucking sound of jobs being pulled out of this country.”"
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/11/24/what-weve-l...
[2] https://theconversation.com/the-giant-sucking-sound-of-nafta...
Re:Why Firms Are Struggling with the U.S. Economy’s Soft Lan...
by treis on Saturday February 18, 2023 @07:45PM
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The car companies were crushed by the Japanese decades before NAFTA.
Re:Why Firms Are Struggling with the U.S. Economy’s Soft Lan...
by spacemadness on Sunday February 19, 2023 @12:32PM
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It’s interesting that you seem to think that’s a fault of labor and not a fault of management. There are folks on here that go straight to blaming the workers as if management can do no wrong as they themselves are presumably part of the management class or aim to be. You can have workers push for better treatment without pointing to threats of foreign competition to stop progress.