Yes, I’m aware there was a pandemic. Thank you for the smartassery. I know it because our code quality is down (bug reports and defects have increased) and scheduled deliverables are missed more often than prior to the pandemic. Same team, same general workload, same platform and code base. Difference is…we all WFH now due to the pandemic.

My point was really more that worker perceptions of their productivity increasing are just as subjective as management’s perception that productivity is decreasing. It’s all just a “feeling”. HN wants to stay WFH because they are more productive and want management to provide facts when they want to RTO, but the workers cannot really provide data to support their claim any more than management can.