Re:Amazon will require employees return to the office 3 days...
by sinity on Friday February 17, 2023 @10:04PM
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> You don't build relationships and trust through jira tickets and emails, you build them through unstructured messy human interactions. They pay off later.
Assuming you're neurotypical.
Re:Amazon will require employees return to the office 3 days...
by azinman2 on Saturday February 18, 2023 @01:43AM
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Which most people are. You make structure how your business works on the typical case. That will provide the most transformation.
Re:Amazon will require employees return to the office 3 days...
by mschuster91 on Saturday February 18, 2023 @04:03AM
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> Which most people are.
Definitely not in actual developers or sysadmins.
Re:Amazon will require employees return to the office 3 days...
by concordDance on Saturday February 18, 2023 @05:41AM
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Most of them are in this manner.
Almost all the ones I've met.
Re:Amazon will require employees return to the office 3 days...
by viraptor on Saturday February 18, 2023 @06:45AM
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We do an occasional get-together every few months (with a big break due to the plague). Seems to work just as well as when I worked at the office.
Re:Amazon will require employees return to the office 3 days...
by ElevenLathe on Saturday February 18, 2023 @09:13AM
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I absolutely have close work (and friend) relationships with people on far flung teams, and even companies I no longer work for in countries I'll never visit, whom I've never met in meatspace (or only a couple times at conferences or whatever). These relationships were built mainly by IRC/jabber/slack (depending on the vintage) and phone calls/videocon though, not tickets and email. Time zone probably matters more than anything -- I keep in touch with colleagues from India who I met when working third shift in web hosting support, but couldn't tell you the names of the daywalkers from the same office I was in.
Modern corporate environments are spread out all over the planet. If you can't build relationships without sharing air, you will be at a massive disadvantage. That's just how it is, and it isn't something that was caused by the pandemic, it's a consequence of intense globalization over the past ~40 years and an aggressive investor-driven acquisitions culture.
A message or email works differently when you have an established relationship with the other party. It's one thing when I have to do something "because the company needs it" but totally different when I'm helping a flesh-and-blood coworker. You don't build relationships and trust through jira tickets and emails, you build them through unstructured messy human interactions. They pay off later.