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Re:Bing Search API Pricing Update: Massive Price Increase by godzillabrennus on Friday February 17, 2023 @02:42AM (#34831975)
I’d pay for DuckDuckGo but I imagine you and I would be in the minority…
Re:Bing Search API Pricing Update: Massive Price Increase by californical on Friday February 17, 2023 @02:51AM (#34832025)
Kagi is basically that answer, but they have their own index (which is excellent) instead of DDG’s multi-other-index method. I use kagi almost exclusively and almost never need to type !g or !ddg. I think it’s ~$10/mo but easily worth it to me to support a privacy-first search company. I first started using them after reading about it on HN last year

They also have a few nice extra features like being able to customize your own index by marking certain domains up-ranked or down-ranked (or removed entirely), depending on what you like, and you get full control over that.

There are only a few companies that I advocate so highly for, but I feel like they’re just so good…

(Edit: maybe they don’t rely as heavily on their own index actually? Now I’m not so sure. Will look into it to fact check myself)

Re:Bing Search API Pricing Update: Massive Price Increase by speedgoose on Friday February 17, 2023 @03:29AM (#34832252)
I don’t know which indexes they use and I don’t like that they aren’t disclosing it.

Perhaps they have an agreement with Bing, perhaps they scrap Google search using 4G modems, perhaps they do an amazing job using Common Crawl.

Re:Bing Search API Pricing Update: Massive Price Increase by ricardo81 on Friday February 17, 2023 @03:41AM (#34832329)
Searching for things like "my ip address is" tends to show which bot IP crawled a page.
Re:Bing Search API Pricing Update: Massive Price Increase by obidan on Friday February 17, 2023 @03:45AM (#34832351)
Kagi does not use their own indexes, aside from perhaps very small things.

They use both Bing and Google indexes. It is why the cost per search is relatively high.

This change will impact them and it's currently a discussion topic on their Discord as well.

Pretty sad. I just started using it a week ago and am still planning on not going back.

Re:Bing Search API Pricing Update: Massive Price Increase by captn3m0 on Friday February 17, 2023 @12:11PM (#34837334)
Brave Search is the only large usable independent search index that I am aware of. 92% of results come from its own index, with 10B pages indexed.

https://dkb.blog/p/brave-search-interview

Re:Bing Search API Pricing Update: Massive Price Increase by fragmede on Friday February 17, 2023 @12:30PM (#34837591)
What's wrong with https://commoncrawl.org/ ?
Re:Bing Search API Pricing Update: Massive Price Increase by giancarlostoro on Friday February 17, 2023 @09:36AM (#34835112)
> marking certain domains up-ranked or down-ranked (or removed entirely)

Finally no more Pinterest! I'm still debating Kagi, but chances are high I will subscribe.