Re:‘I will show you how safe Telegram is’
by proxysna on Friday February 17, 2023 @06:27AM
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> The implicit assumption is that the states always go for the faster solution.
That’s what cops in Belarus did to me twice since 2020 when I declined to unlock my phone. That’s what they did to many of my friends and colleagues. Hacking happens but it is a more of an exception as it requires planning and effort, which is hard. Blackmail and threats are much easier.
Re:‘I will show you how safe Telegram is’
by sangnoir on Saturday February 18, 2023 @08:02PM
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Just because B happened to you personally doesn't mean A never happens to anyone.
When a person says "A happens", and another responds by saying "A doesn't really happen - rather B happens", their assertion is insufficient to refute the existence of A, whether based on a cost analysis thought experiment or personal experience with B. It is far more accurate for the second person to make an addition rather than a refutation by saying "B also happens more frequently than A"
The implicit assumption is that the states always go for the faster solution. I'd argue that intercepting an SMS/call is easier/faster for nation-states, than arrest and torture; most carriers worldwide have interception capabilities mandated by law: using the secret police to subvert those capabilities is not rocket science - especially when coordinating with hacking-as-a-service companies like "Team Jorge".
What really grinds my gears, when someone confidently state their thought experiment/"derivation from (idealized) first principles" as a rebuttal to empirical evidence. Incidentally, the wording is sometimes absolute, which cloaks the speculative (and wrong) nature of such comments ("No, not really hacked." Implying hacking doesn't happen, and yet it does).
I've seen such 'truthy' but wrong comments voted to the top on HN, because the up-voters share the same blindspot and think "Yeah, that sounds right"