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Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by GeekyBear on Thursday February 16, 2023 @02:17PM (#34824195)
> On this point the media on both sides has so muddied the waters I now assume nothing about this as I can't tell which side is telling the truth anymore.

The Columbia Journalism Review is about as reliable on media matters as you could want, and Jeff Gerth is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist with decades of investigative journalism experience at the NY Times.

He lays out an extensive case showing that there was an effort to mislead the public.

https://www.cjr.org/special_report/trumped-up-press-versus-p...

Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by joenot443 on Thursday February 16, 2023 @09:48PM (#34830075)
That was a great read, thanks.
Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by nswest23 on Friday February 17, 2023 @03:54PM (#34840418)
> The Columbia Journalism Review is about as reliable on media matters as you could want, and Jeff Gerth is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist

These bonafides aside this particular piece has faced a mountain of criticisms [1] and from a quick read doesn't pass the smell test for journalistic integrity itself. It makes Trump sound like a victim, a saint and a martyr all at once.

> Trump, unaware of the coming tornado, including the most salacious contents of the dossier, set out to form a government and make peace with the press. He made the rounds of news organizations, meeting with broadcast anchors, editors at Condé Nast magazines, and the Times.

> Trump’s longest sit-down after the election was with the Times, including the then-publisher, editors, and reporters. For seventy-five minutes Trump’s love/hate relationship with his hometown paper was on display.

> At the end, he called the Times a “world jewel.”

> He added, “I hope we can get along.”

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gerth#Career (last paragraph)

Re:Half of Americans now believe that news organizations del... by GeekyBear on Friday February 17, 2023 @07:23PM (#34842497)
> These bonafides aside this particular piece has faced a mountain of criticisms

Congratulations on relying on Trump's own strategy of declaring any critical reporting, no matter how well sourced, to be "Fake News".

> It makes Trump sound like a victim, a saint and a martyr all at once.

This is laughably false to any fair minded person who has even skimmed the article.

For example in paragraph six:

>At its root was an undeclared war between an entrenched media, and a new kind of disruptive presidency, with its own hyperbolic version of the truth. (The Washington Post has tracked thousands of Trump’s false or misleading statements.)

Throwing away the public's trust in the media because you're unwilling to stick to factual reporting on Trump's screw ups is the very definition of "You're not helping."