Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says full self-driving beta may cause crashes

Re:Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says full self-driving be... by alfor on Thursday February 16, 2023 @01:28PM (#34823207)

Do you have the latest beta?

How did it improve in the last 12 months?

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Re:Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says full self-driving be... by psychomugs on Thursday February 16, 2023 @01:39PM (#34823469)

That other drivers are beta testers for software controlling a large mass of metal and combustibles hurtling down asphalt at _ludicrous_ speeds is something you'd write into a dystopia story.

The fact of the fiction is terrifying.

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Re:Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says full self-driving be... by alfor on Thursday February 16, 2023 @01:44PM (#34823561)

It’s a choice, you are in control all the time.

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Re:Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says full self-driving be... by psychomugs on Thursday February 16, 2023 @02:09PM (#34824052)

https://www.sae.org/publications/technical-papers/content/20...

"This study investigated the driving characteristics of drivers when the system changes from autonomous driving to manual driving in the case of low driver alertness.

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In the results, a significant difference was observed in the reaction time and the brake pedal force for brake pedal operation in the low alertness state, compared to the normal alertness state of the driver, and there were instances when the driver was unable to perform an adequate avoidance operation."

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Re:Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says full self-driving be... by CharlesW on Thursday February 16, 2023 @01:50PM (#34823684)

You can re-take control, which may take seconds depending on the mental and physical state of the driver. A lot can happen in a second.

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Re:Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says full self-driving be... by ceejayoz on Thursday February 16, 2023 @01:50PM (#34823706)

The other drivers on the road, and pedestrians, aren't getting to make that choice.

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Re:Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says full self-driving be... by cma on Thursday February 16, 2023 @02:06PM (#34823997)

Musk has the latest internal release that will fix every problem at the end of the month, every month.

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Re:Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says full self-driving be... by root_axis on Thursday February 16, 2023 @02:11PM (#34824078)

Not sure if it's the latest, and nowadays I rarely use it, and when I do it's just to show off to curious friends, but I live in an east coast metro and I've never been able to use FSD for more than 20 minutes without it making a dangerous mistake - 90% of the time it's been a mistake making a left turn, turning into the wrong lane or oncoming traffic after making the left, not correctly respecting the traffic lines or the left turn lights and other very scary situations.

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Re:Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says full self-driving be... by alfor on Thursday February 16, 2023 @02:36PM (#34824532)

So it’s good enough that you let it control and become less attentive?

I was thinking that you feel in what kind of conditions it behave correctly (highway), low traffic and then use it in progressively more difficult situations as it prove to you it can handle them consistently.

I know it’s not ready yet. I heard as saw so many positive reviews (but still with corner cases and strange behaviours)

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Re:Tesla recalls 362,758 vehicles, says full self-driving be... by root_axis on Thursday February 16, 2023 @03:17PM (#34825284)

I've not had any FSD issues on the highway besides phantom braking, it keeps lanes correctly, safely adjusts to traffic speeds and it merges into offramp lane without issue (though it still makes me nervous), once it gets into city streets though...

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