Re:The US Air Force may have shot down an amateur radio pico...
by Fatnino on Thursday February 16, 2023 @03:00AM
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Satellite orbits are pretty easy to predict. You can do your secret stuff when you know there is a gap in coverage and then throw a tarp over it when they are passing overhead. A balloon screws this up. It can go anywhere anytime. Now you need to keep the tarp in place for longer stretches of time and it gets annoying.
Re:The US Air Force may have shot down an amateur radio pico...
by postalrat on Thursday February 16, 2023 @08:18AM
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If that balloon could go anywhere anytime then why can't I?
Re:The US Air Force may have shot down an amateur radio pico...
by mrguyorama on Thursday February 16, 2023 @03:10PM
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Are you willing to take an AIM-9X to the face? Because if you are willing to be intercepted you can go a lot of places. At least, once.
Re:The US Air Force may have shot down an amateur radio pico...
by somenameforme on Friday February 17, 2023 @12:21AM
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I believe that is the point he was making. 90 foot balloons aren't exactly discrete and if they were ever used for spying, their shelf life would be extremely low with a high probability of ending up being seized by whoever you were spying on, on top of it. Maybe you have some self detonation mechanism on board, but now you also are sending something which could be perceived to be a weapon. It's just really not a logical concept, at all.
Re:The US Air Force may have shot down an amateur radio pico...
by Fatnino on Friday February 17, 2023 @04:40AM
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Most countries can't hit something hanging out at 60000 feet. The US can, but it can also blow up satellites.
So if you can send satellites over unmolested, maybe you also try with a huge-ass balloon. It's way cheaper. Worth a shot.
I also find our own reaction somewhat telling. It seems difficult to imagine that $800 billion a year isn't enough to find some way to recover a balloon. Yet we chose to destroy it, and send the debris for a swim on top of it. Whatever's left of the device is almost certainly completely wasted. Would you want to do this if you believe there might be evidence of surreptitious behavior, potentially to try to compromise high security locations, on that balloon? Or would you deploy signal jamming technology and work to recover the balloon intact?
Our reaction just feels like a meme. I can't help but hear this song [2] playing in the background as I envision an F-22 making its flyby locking on $400k missiles to bring down a balloon.
[1] - https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/03/us/politics/chinese-spy-b...
[2] - https://youtu.be/5uPoDNEn3I0?t=8