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Re: by JKCalhoun on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:50AM (#34806639)
> What bothers me is that it feels like an offense against the entire notion of a computer is.

Yeah, as others are also saying, welcome to the 21st Century where they're not really computers anymore that they're selling. Your mistake is to still believe that they are.

I view the phone the way perhaps a ham (ham radio operator) viewed the transistor radio. For those of us where a computer is a tool to build with, a thing to tinker with, these new pocket devices are not for us. Too bad.

I've moved completely away from developing for "mobile". It's more of an afterthought for me at this point — "Hmmm, would this also make sense to port to mobile?" My thinking these days defaults to developing for the desktop and the web.

Re: by JohnFen on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @12:26PM (#34807322)
I agree wholeheartedly. It's why developing for phones isn't of interest to me, and why I stopped being a registered Apple dev.
Re: by bitL on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @01:03PM (#34807936)
That's why developments like PinePhone are important - just yesterday I played with booting 11 different Linux distros on it. The only limitation is battery life but I guess some backporting from Android should resolve that one as well.
Re: by officeplant on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @01:37PM (#34808500)
I want convergence so bad. To be able to just plop my phone into a dock after work and have my home linux user setup display on the monitors. The pinephone still feels so far away from the phone side of things, but succeeding in the computer side of things. I haven't tried the Pinephone Pro yet, but my Pinephone left so much to be desired.

I hope linux phone enthusiasts can keep their spirits up for the next 5+ years it feels like it will take to make a daily driver open hardware phone happen.

Re: by pmontra on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @01:29PM (#34808367)
Porting to mobile for my own projects means to build a web site that I can also use on my phone in Firefox.