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Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by gorjusborg on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:18AM (#34804068)
I absolutely love the concept behind the site.

I'd like to submit all the sites that disable copy/paste on their password entry, especially if they have stringent password content policy.

My randomly generated 10 word passphrase is more secure than your password policy, but I don't want to type it in by hand, you donkey.

Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by NickBusey on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:30AM (#34804244)
Disabling paste anywhere is a cardinal sin.

“We want to make sure the user gets this right. So instead of letting them just hit Ctrl+V let’s make them type the whole thing, introducing all sorts of possibilities for errors!”

Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by madamelic on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:34AM (#34804296)
My favorite is when sites completely disable pasting my bank account number.

Oh, let me get out my bifocals and checkbook that I copying from... and definitely not my online banking we've had for two decades+.

Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by _fat_santa on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @10:04AM (#34804758)
I wonder, what is the rationale for this "security feature"?
Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by outcoldman on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @10:17AM (#34804905)
Wise for example, allowed me paste the password for creating account or changing the password. Password was 20 characters long, but seems like they cut it on client side or backend to 15. So when you login, it does not cut the password, and I never could figure out why I could not login in some places.

So one dump rule creates another

Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by gorjusborg on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:20AM (#34804098)
Oh, and if you have a maximum password length, I don't trust you with my data.
Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by madamelic on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:34AM (#34804310)
Only surpassed by _having_ a password length then truncating it to fit rather than throwing an error at registration.

That one is a fun one to find out.

Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by throwaway742 on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:47AM (#34804493)
T-Mobile has a fun one. When creating the account they let me set a IIRC 6 digit account security PIN, but when setting up online access they only accepted a 4 digit PIN necessitating a call to customer service to reset the PIN.

Bonus Points: resetting the PIN had almost no security checks making it completely worthless as security

Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by happymellon on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @10:38AM (#34805214)
HSBC UK does this.
Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by WelcomeShorty on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @02:16PM (#34809068)
Swiss bank Cler is guilty of this too, in a way.

At (initial) password change they allow plenty of characters, but it is truncated without notice. After the password change, at login, it does not get truncated and you are not able to login, nor can you change your password ever again (until a password reset via mail (no email) arrives. Fun times.

Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by reidjs on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:46AM (#34804478)
You can’t just let users paste in 18,000 characters you need to limit the password length somewhere. But I agree a limit less than 255 chars is insane.
Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by gorjusborg on Thursday February 16, 2023 @09:08AM (#34818800)
> You can’t just let users paste in 18,000 characters

Thank you for speaking up. And here it is: I don't trust you with my data.

Passwords should not be stored in a database. Period.

So how do you check a password if you can't store it? Hash it with a salt. This results in a fixed width output, regardless of the password size.

If you are setting a max password, it's because you are trying to store it as-is, which is why I don't trust you to store my data.

Edit: I also think it makes sites that do this a target security wise. It's like advertising ignorance.

Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by amlozano on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @09:49AM (#34804531)
TreasuryDirect.gov should get a special callout for forcing you to use an on screen keyboard to click your password, with of course paste disabled.
Re:Show HN: A compilation of websites with dumb password rules by duffn on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @10:13AM (#34804861)
I'm glad you enjoy it! If you have any sites you like to add, please feel free to contribute. https://github.com/duffn/dumb-password-rules/blob/main/CONTR...