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Re:$500 a Month, No Strings: Chicago Experiments with a Guar... by anthonypasq on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @05:38PM (#34797240)
i honestly didnt think it was possible for people in the year of our lord 2023 to say taxation is theft with a straight face.
Re:$500 a Month, No Strings: Chicago Experiments with a Guar... by jeromegv on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @07:22PM (#34798275)
It's also the mentality that somehow someone receiving money from the government is "stealing", but leaves totally out of the equation people that have extorted a crazy amount of wealth on themselves by enduring dangerous and poor working conditions for their workers. When you see companies depending on government to provide welfares or NGOs food banks to their OWN worker because how low the salary is. But that is fine.
Re:$500 a Month, No Strings: Chicago Experiments with a Guar... by 0xbadc0de5 on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @07:42PM (#34798451)
If not theft, would you not agree that it's certainly excessive? Did you support government giving your tax money to the banks in 2008 or the automakers in 2009? If you didn't support it, did you still pay your taxes? If so, why?

fwiw, I think the "taxes are theft" argument is often used as a response of exasperation against what appears to be systemic misuse of public money. I suspect that the vast majority of people who would repeat that, would also agree that some form of the "social contract" is necessary. They probably just disagree on what specific level of government involvement makes sense. ie: rather than expanding the size of government, why not reduce the size of government. Wouldn't that free up more productive labor that could grow the pie for everyone? Maybe government doesn't need to be picking winners and losers in a free market - or at least less so than they currently do.

Re:$500 a Month, No Strings: Chicago Experiments with a Guar... by anthonypasq on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:09AM (#34805751)
people that say taxation is theft categorically do not believe in the social contract.

this isnt a friendly debate about when government spending becomes expensive, they literally dont think taxes should exist. its like claiming a full blown Stalinist simply disagrees with the level of private ownership people expect.

now as to whether its just some refrain out of exasperation, maybe pick some words that accurately explain how youre feeling instead of saying something moronic and expecting everyone else to read your mind as to what you were actually trying to say.

Re:$500 a Month, No Strings: Chicago Experiments with a Guar... by 0xbadc0de5 on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:39AM (#34806371)
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Re:$500 a Month, No Strings: Chicago Experiments with a Guar... by carlosjobim on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @08:03PM (#34798629)
Get used to people having different opinions than you - it will help you greatly in life.
Re:$500 a Month, No Strings: Chicago Experiments with a Guar... by anthonypasq on Wednesday February 15, 2023 @11:05AM (#34805663)
dont you have bossa novas to write or something?