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Re:Blue Origin manufactured solar cell prototype from lunar ... by panick21_ on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @12:37PM (#34792893)
There is also a cool idea about building robots that use things like ice to build themselves bodies and can build versions of themselves.

You likely still have to send along a whole lot of electronics pars because making those on the spot would be difficult.

Re:Blue Origin manufactured solar cell prototype from lunar ... by chairhairair on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @12:41PM (#34792946)
Yes making ice-based self-replicating robots is “difficult”…
Re:Blue Origin manufactured solar cell prototype from lunar ... by panick21_ on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @01:25PM (#34793681)
We are also don't have much real research into actually trying it. And it doesn't have to all the way self-replicating. It more like using local materials to build the heavy parts of robots. Maybe those robots then couldn't build another one of themselves.
Re:Blue Origin manufactured solar cell prototype from lunar ... by hef19898 on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @02:04PM (#34794292)
Unless space ice has mechanical properties comparable to steel, I don't see the point in even trying...
Re:Blue Origin manufactured solar cell prototype from lunar ... by dotnet00 on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @02:26PM (#34794621)
While ice is a somewhat extreme example, the idea of bringing over the electronics and using local materials to put together whatever structural components are needed isn't that crazy. It'd save a lot of mass, and things like 3d printers can produce them with reasonable precision. There already is a decent amount of research into the prospect of 3d printing structures with Lunar or Martian regolith, so structural components for robots or machines don't seem too crazy.
Re:Blue Origin manufactured solar cell prototype from lunar ... by panick21_ on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @02:48PM (#34794921)
I don't remember the details and I don't remember the exact place where I have heard and interview with somebody that works on this stuff.

They wouldn't use pure ice. But in cold places, with ice mixed with some other materials you can actually make quite good materials. Consider that in most places gravity is much lower then on earth so it doesn't need to be carbon fiber to be useful.

Re:Blue Origin manufactured solar cell prototype from lunar ... by hef19898 on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @04:13PM (#34796072)
I said steel, not carbon fibre. And even in zero-g things still have mass to them that needs to be handled, don't they?
Re:Blue Origin manufactured solar cell prototype from lunar ... by panick21_ on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @05:25PM (#34797073)
I know what you said, I just used carbon fibre to make a point is. You don't always need the best materials to have something useful.

Yes things still have mass but if you are building a robot that moves around there is a big difference in what kind of quality structural materials you need for the robot to be viable.

Part of the research that would go into such project would be to look at what local resources are, and how to make them into useful materials. For example, using ice in combination with some filler material has been shown to be quite usable in cold temperatures.

The exact materials you would use depend on where you would want to use this kind of system. Maybe in the far future these kind of system would look around to analyses the environment and make smart choices about what materials to use to build themselves.

Re:Blue Origin manufactured solar cell prototype from lunar ... by Vikerchu on Tuesday February 14, 2023 @02:46PM (#34794882)
Fusion\fission refining? ??????