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Re:StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop by cpfohl on Sunday February 12, 2023 @07:09AM (#34762237)
OS agnostic here (I’ve worked professionally in all three major OSes and on both Apple and a variety of Windows machines, currently enjoying WSL2 on my Dell XPS 9700).

Apple’s laptop hardware still seems to be the gold standard to me. I have 10 year old laptops that still work great. My 2.5 year old Dell is currently with Dell for out of warranty repairs. I have no other windows machines left. All of them had an 4ish year lifespan are now dead and were not worth fixing. Current machine not withstanding; it’s too young to die.

Edit: I will add that I’m perfectly happy with my other windows machines, just that the build quality was such that I their natural lifespan was simply shorter.

Re:StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop by mnahkies on Sunday February 12, 2023 @11:12AM (#34763928)
My dell XPS has been going strong for 5 years now, replaced the battery and upgraded the SSD in that time but it's been a pretty impressive machine and definitely on par with apple laptops I've had in the past
Re:StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop by sirsinsalot on Sunday February 12, 2023 @12:52PM (#34764971)
Another sample, my MBP set itself on fire in the boot of my car (examination revealed, the thunderbolt or whatever chip ignited).

My XPS13 is going strong after years of abuse and being lugged around the world in hand luggage.

My old powerbook and ibook (remember those?!) Both had live current running through the case screws which caused a stingy shock on bare legs.

I've never seen an Apple laptop that didn't look nice but ultimately have weird issues

Re:StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop by prmoustache on Sunday February 12, 2023 @01:18PM (#34765216)
> Apple’s laptop hardware still seems to be the gold standard to me. I have 10 year old laptops that still work great.

Last time I looked at second hand laptops. Most of those the +5y old macbooks in the market had huge issues / defects (and also looked like shit) while you could find a lot of decent refurbished thinkpads and HP elitebook from the same era with no advertized defects (and those I bought didn't have any). I am excluding battery life as regarldess of the brand all needed a brand new one.

So they seem to be the gold standard when new. But they certainly don't age so well.

Re:StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop by Klonoar on Sunday February 12, 2023 @03:24PM (#34766504)
Many would agree that the middle years between 2015-2020 were not gold standard. It’s laughable to suggest Apple didn’t win the title back with the advent of the M1.
Re:StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop by prmoustache on Monday February 13, 2023 @10:35AM (#34774732)
In term of perf/watts ratio yes. In term or reliability the jury is still out.
Re:StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop by phone8675309 on Monday February 13, 2023 @11:27PM (#34785289)
How many 10 year old M1s are on the secondhand market?